Is the door as it currently stands "as supplied" (i.e. as certified at time of fitting) or has someone after installation fitted a device to the glass?

If "as supplied" then the FRA is incorrect to assert the panel must be clear.

If a retrofit film this should be removable.

Worst case you may need a replacement door to resolve the issue (or a replacement assessor).

Frosted glass would not obscure the appearance of flame and smoke on the other side of the door unlike a solid panel with no glass.

thankyou ! i havent been out to see this yet but could it be possible that something was left on the glass when installed ? i would have thought that being the case , the staff on site would have been able to remove it. They decsribe it as a 'cover' on the glass 

Originally Posted by: MJ Wigan

could it be possible that something was left on the glass when installed ?

It may be protective film but you would expect a competent installer to remove shipping materials.

Conversley the door could have been ordered with frosted/obscured glass.

For information, fire rated glazing must have proof of assessment and testing, be CE Marked according to EN1279-5, must be installed right way round i.e.one side withstand exposure to fire the other side preventing flames and hot gases penetratingthe unprotected side.

A permanent stamp on the glass indicating name of the manufacturer/supplier, the name of the glass product, performance rating.  The stamp must be visible after installing.

More can be found on IFSEC INSIDER.

Although I agree with Messay in principle, all the previous comments appear to be based on the door actually being required to be a fire door to meet the requirements of the fire strategy / achieve maximum travel distances and not just a door that has been installed as a fire door and signed as such but is not required to be such..

Clearly, if the door doesn't need to be a fire door, just take the sign off it and leave it as it is. But, if it is required to be a fire door (and therefore true risk is present) then it should meet all the requirements for a fire door. If you are unsure if it needs to be a fire door, get competent advice to make that determination.

Kate,

It’s not quite that simple. Many fire risk assessors operate on the principle that if a door is marked as a fire door, it must meet the required fire door standards—even if it does not actually need to be a fire door. This is also a common approach taken by the Fire and Rescue Service (FRS) during their inspections.

In practice, it is quite common to see doors labelled as fire doors when, in reality, they may not be required to be. During most refurbishments involving door replacements or re-installations, fire door sets are often used by default. When fire doors are required, they are fully installed with the necessary fire safety components (e.g. cold smoke seals and intumescent strips). However, when they are not required to be fire doors, they are installed without these components. Despite this, they frequently end up with ‘Fire Door’ signage affixed to them.

Fire risk assessors tend to focus on identifying doors that should be fire doors but are not, rather than questioning whether doors marked as fire doors actually need to be.