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Naomi C  
#1 Posted : 03 June 2025 15:59:47(UTC)
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Naomi C

An employee who works in a concession was assaulted by three members of the public. The employee sustained brusing to legs and stomach. They came back to work the next day then went home as not feeling well. 

The incident happened just outside the concession, not in our demise. 

Is this RIDDOR reportable. 

Acorns  
#2 Posted : 03 June 2025 16:49:53(UTC)
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Acorns

Injuries don’t seem to be sufficient to be riddor. Check the injuries sustained against the list to confirm either way
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 03 June 2025 18:13:53(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Avoid approaching the situation with a closed mind "not in our demise" suggests seeking excuse to avoid what should be done.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/violence/employer/reporting-learning-from-incidents.htm

As Acorns says it does not sound like they suffered a specified injury or death which is an immediate RIDDOR.

However if the employee was "at work" (not necessarily a specific location) and was acting in relation to work and subsequently has seven consecutive days absent then it does likely fall under RIDDOR.

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Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 03 June 2025 18:13:53(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Avoid approaching the situation with a closed mind "not in our demise" suggests seeking excuse to avoid what should be done.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/violence/employer/reporting-learning-from-incidents.htm

As Acorns says it does not sound like they suffered a specified injury or death which is an immediate RIDDOR.

However if the employee was "at work" (not necessarily a specific location) and was acting in relation to work and subsequently has seven consecutive days absent then it does likely fall under RIDDOR.

thanks 8 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 04/06/2025(UTC), peter gotch on 04/06/2025(UTC), MikeKelly on 04/06/2025(UTC), Self and Hasty on 04/06/2025(UTC), A Kurdziel on 04/06/2025(UTC), peter gotch on 04/06/2025(UTC), MikeKelly on 04/06/2025(UTC), Self and Hasty on 04/06/2025(UTC)
peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 04 June 2025 08:57:13(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Naomi

Your first post here so welcome to the Forums.

Might or might not be RIDDOR recordable or reportable.

Sounds as if the victim was "at work" within the meaning of the definition in Section 52 of the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 *UNLESS they were outside the course of their employment, perhaps having finished work for the day and on their way home.

As Roundtuit says nothing in your description would indicate that the result was such that it is reportable without considering whether it is an "over 3 day" or "over 7 day" injury.

Unless you can be confident that the absence due to "not feeling well" is not related to the assault then it seems to me that this is an injury sustained during the course of work.

So, you don't count the day of the accident (assault) but you count each day afterwards. So, if the accident happens on e.g. a Monday, then you count Tuesday as 1st day. if still unfit for "normal" work by Friday that is the 4th day so "over 3 days" and the incident is RECORDABLE.

if still unfit the following Tuesday then that is the 8th day, so "over 7 days" and thence both RECORDABLE and REPORTABLE.

Life was so much easier for many when "over 3 day" injuries were reportable and one didn't have to consider two separate thresholds.

*Even if this incident was not during the victim's course of employment, I would still be wanting to investigate whether they were targeted due to where they work.

Edited by user 04 June 2025 09:01:24(UTC)  | Reason: Clarification

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