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Booney  
#1 Posted : 20 June 2025 14:07:49(UTC)
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Booney

Hi All, 

we have man-up FLT's at a couple of our sites and are currently refereshing our rescue procedure for a person stranded at height. We are currently looking at a combination of 4 options for a VNA stranded at height where the operator is NOT incapacitated and the Fire alarm isn't ringing:

1. Lower the cab using the hydraulic pressure relief valve

2. Call Fire and Rescue emergency services

3. Call the FLT Manufacturer's engineer (often on site, but not always)

4. Carry out a basket to basket rescue using a scissor lift

I'm not looking to debate the moral issues, the costs, the what if scenarios and the legal requirements etc. - we've done that to death!

What I would like to ask the forum is does anyone have any other solutions at all? Has anyone actually had to effect a rescue and if so, are you willing to share your experiences please?

Thank you in anticipation

Danny

Edited by user 20 June 2025 14:11:12(UTC)  | Reason: word duplication

PDarlow  
#2 Posted : 23 June 2025 08:41:31(UTC)
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PDarlow

Hi,

When I became a VNA operator (a long while ago) we were trained to self rescue using abseil technique. If you were to provide the right equipment and training, this could be an effective option.

Booney  
#3 Posted : 23 June 2025 12:00:04(UTC)
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Booney

Hi, sorry, should have mentioned - abseiling isn't an option for us

peter gotch  
#4 Posted : 23 June 2025 12:43:35(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Booney

I'm not going to pretend to have any real experience with VNAs but perhaps you could explain why abseiling isn't an option as my understanding is that this has been one of the most common methods used for (self) rescue from such equipment.

The more information you can give the readers, the more likely it is that you will get helpful comment.

Booney  
#5 Posted : 23 June 2025 14:13:03(UTC)
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Booney

Hi Peter,

it's a business decision not to do abseiling - simple as that - but I don't really see why a reason is required?

What I am asking is, are there any other effective methods of making a rescue from height that people may be aware of, other than what I have mentioned please? In addition, if anyone has had to effect a rescue, would they be willing to share their experience please?

Many thanks

Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 23 June 2025 15:39:39(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: Booney Go to Quoted Post
2. Call Fire and Rescue emergency services

Has your company actually engaged with the local brigade on this idea?

Most of their access equipment is for working externally not in a narrow aisle warehouse.

We work next door to our local station but never presume they will be available, even for a fire incident.

Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 23 June 2025 15:39:39(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: Booney Go to Quoted Post
2. Call Fire and Rescue emergency services

Has your company actually engaged with the local brigade on this idea?

Most of their access equipment is for working externally not in a narrow aisle warehouse.

We work next door to our local station but never presume they will be available, even for a fire incident.

Booney  
#8 Posted : 24 June 2025 09:58:35(UTC)
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Booney

Hi Roundtuit,

I have, but no response as yet so I have reached out a bit further.

Interestingly, I have it on very good authority that you can actually use calling 999 as a strategy. I think in some scenarios that could work but can't see that working for us.

Emochka  
#9 Posted : 25 June 2025 13:20:41(UTC)
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Emochka

OC 282/31::Rope evacuation from mechanical handling equipment

Hi Booney,

You may have already seen it, but this HSE OC (see link above) is a few years old but might be useful as it gives an interesting look into the risk considerations needed around this, as well as examples of alternative self rescue methods in appendix 1. 

Whatever method you go with you will need to be able to demonstrate that even the business decisions to not do a certain thing are based on risk, just as the decisions to do other things are. 

Booney  
#10 Posted : 25 June 2025 13:28:48(UTC)
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Booney

Hi Emochka,

no, I wasn't aware of that so thank you, I really appreciate it!

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