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peter gotch  
#1 Posted : 20 August 2025 11:45:10(UTC)
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peter gotch

Courtesy of a link helpfully provided by IOSH Magazine:

FAQ | ScORSA - Scottish Occupational Road Safety Alliance

Conclusion by RoSPA:

Therefore, RoSPA is confident that the overall estimate of between a quarter and a third of road crashes being work related is sufficiently robust to be able to give a broad indication of the scale of the problem.

Which distills down to driving "at work" being a far more significant contributor to what would (if not generally excluded from scope) RIDDOR reportable or recordable accidents at work than e.g. falls from height.

....and, of course, that's before one considers whether an employer should care about how many accidents are happening during the "daily commute".

stevedm  
#2 Posted : 20 August 2025 12:18:46(UTC)
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stevedm

pretty old debate this ...must be a slow news day...

I remember around 20 years ago getting stats 19 updated to include work related...always a big bone of contention as the insurance companies would have to change from SD&P + commute to separate business insurance for anyone using a car to get to work...not sure I would sign up to that one...We introduced max time driving for company car drivers similar to that of commercial vehicle drivers after two senior managers drove from the south to manchester for an all day conference and fell asleep and killed them both on the way back...the key around the statistics is that vehicle safety technology has gotten a lot better over the years and continues to advance...whereas driver behaviour hasn't changed much if at all...so nowadays you are more likely to survive a collosion that in the 70-80's you wouldn't have....

peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 20 August 2025 13:45:49(UTC)
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peter gotch

Steve, agreed entirely that for you and I and some others this is “old news”, but apparently not for everyone.

So, we have just had the annual HSE summary stats.

Health and safety statistics 2024

“138 Workers killed in work-related accidents in 2023/24 Source: RIDDOR”

Possibly accurate if you read the words in full and recognise that this number excludes anything outside the scope of RIDDOR.

But as a headline figure, which is the way e.g. the H&S media and other organisations generally treat it, grossly misleading.

…..whilst the topic of the season on the IOSH homepage Institution of Occupational Safety and Health | IOSH

….is Protecting people working at height

Every day, 2,000 people fall to their deaths.”

Not actually sure how someone has come up with this number which I think is at least FOUR times the actual figure, probably even more than four times, but once again, work-related transport accidents seem to have been relegated below what is often stated as “the largest single cause of fatal accidents at work”.

As example Work-related fatal injuries in Great Britain - HSE

“The most common kind of fatal accident continues as falls from height, accounting for more than a quarter of fatal injuries to workers in 2024/25”

With a bar chart showing 35 from this cause with “Struck by moving vehicle in FOURTH place at 14.

If we compare with the Department for Transport estimate for the total number of road deaths in Great Britain of 1,633 in 2024 Reported road casualties in Great Britain, provisional estimates: 2024 - GOV.UK

….then on the basis of RoSPA’s confident estimate that means over 400 work-related fatalities, per year, though that will have included a significant proportion who were not “workers” but those struck by vehicles being driven “at work” – so it is NOT an entirely like for like comparison with the HSE summary statistic of 138 which is of “workers” only.

If “old news” needs to be repeated to get the message across, I don’t see why it is inappropriate to raise this “old news”.

Just as each year, I like to remind people that FAR more people will meet a premature death as a result of occupational ill health than from accidents at work.

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