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sean  
#1 Posted : 01 April 2011 07:59:25(UTC)
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One of my workforce has asked me to purchase a glass hammer, if anyone has a SSOW or RA for this type of tool can you please forward me a copy, also what type of safety glasses are best for this situation?
Zyggy  
#2 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:07:50(UTC)
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Zyggy


I believe that the "Lirpa loof" model would suffice...:-)
ahoskins  
#3 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:07:56(UTC)
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ahoskins

It depends...

Is it a toughened glass hammer, a safety glass hammer, or is it laminated?

Makes a big difference in my view. :-)

A
sean  
#4 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:13:09(UTC)
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It just goes to show you learn something new everyday, I didn't realise there were so many different types of glass hammer, the member of staff who has requested the hammer will be using it to break up old fridge units, which type is best for this?
ahoskins  
#5 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:28:31(UTC)
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I don't think a glass hammer is really suitable for that, dur to the low temperature. Have you considered an Ice Hammer?
B.Bruce  
#6 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:38:54(UTC)
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B.Bruce

Surely, if it was made with safety glass it would be better ;)
sean  
#7 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:42:19(UTC)
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Thanks Ahoskins, I never considered Ice Hammers, can you recommend a supplier?
B.Bruce  
#8 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:43:22(UTC)
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BTW - I agree with Zyggy - given the fridge aspect of the job the Lirpa Loof model is your best bet!
sean  
#9 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:48:14(UTC)
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I have looked into purchasing a Lirpa Loof in previous years but on both occasions got duped by the supplier, can't trust anyone nowadays!
B.Bruce  
#10 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:55:46(UTC)
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B.Bruce

Yeh, I know what you mean - I hated being tricked by those pesky salesmen!
Zyggy  
#11 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:56:58(UTC)
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Zyggy

Sean, you are right to be careful as their are imitation models on the market without the necessary CE mark. These include the "Neeb dah" models which come in various flavours, sorry colours.
ahoskins  
#12 Posted : 01 April 2011 08:59:11(UTC)
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ahoskins

Not sure of a supplier, but you need to be aware that ice hammers have quite a short working life.

If you aren't quick enough using them, you could end up with a water hammer and that makes such a noise you might need to consider ear plugs in addition to safety glasses...
sean  
#13 Posted : 01 April 2011 09:02:24(UTC)
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Zyggy, many thanks for the tip, do "Neeb Dah" provide safety glasses as well, I have heard that although the Lirpa Loof is a good model it can become brittle especially after midday?
Zyggy  
#14 Posted : 01 April 2011 09:52:32(UTC)
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Surprisingly they do, but with innovative features such as anti-scratch; anti-mist - this is achieved by completely removing the lenses & relying on the world renowned "blink theory" where the operative merely closes their eyes whilst reciting a prayer.

The timing is obviously crucial as you rightly point out, but if the are kept in their protective cases they can in fact last up until mid-night, but unfortunately they then change into a pumpkin.
Hally  
#15 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:07:19(UTC)
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Hally

I need a CoSSH Assessment for multi-couloured paint if anyone can help.
sean  
#16 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:09:43(UTC)
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Many thanks again Zyggy you are a wealth of information, this site never ceases to amaze me with the depth of knowledge in so many subjects.

I now have another problem, I have sourced the ice hammers and have bought ear plugs as advised but our staff are insisting on taking their new tools into the staff canteen which is very hot, I have a sneaky feeling they are doing this deliberately to annoy me and because its Friday, are there any basic rules or regs I can use to stop this?
A quick answer would be appreciated as its nearly their break time!
sean  
#17 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:11:05(UTC)
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Hally no problem I will send you one through, which colour range do you need it in?
Kate  
#18 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:16:15(UTC)
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Kate

Sean, if the ice hammer melts in the canteen you should report this as a Dangerous Occurrence under RIDDOR just in case.
Andrew W Walker  
#19 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:19:50(UTC)
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sean wrote:

I now have another problem, I have sourced the ice hammers and have bought ear plugs as advised but our staff are insisting on taking their new tools into the staff canteen which is very hot, I have a sneaky feeling they are doing this deliberately to annoy me and because its Friday, are there any basic rules or regs I can use to stop this?
A quick answer would be appreciated as its nearly their break time!



The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations.

The melting ice hammers would make the floor slippery.
Kate  
#20 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:21:15(UTC)
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Kate

And if the floor is slippery, the employees have the right to down tools and go home on full pay.
sean  
#21 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:26:57(UTC)
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Kate and Motorhead thanks a lot for your help, I will be glad when this day is over!! Got to go and mop the canteen floor now!

Why did I listen to that advice about ice hammers, is someone having me on? Its no joke when your on the receiving end, should have stuck to Glass!!!
Andrew W Walker  
#22 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:28:35(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

You may want to look at the Water Resources Act as well- just to be on the safe side
Ken Slack  
#23 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:37:49(UTC)
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Ken Slack

Motorhead wrote:
You may want to look at the Water Resources Act as well- just to be on the safe side


Could be that you need to test the melted water for legionella, depending on whether the ice hammer was made from fresh water or not...

P.S. Can anyone tell me where I can get my heavy duty tyre pressure guage for a caterpillar crane recalibrated?
Bob Howden  
#24 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:47:53(UTC)
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Hally wrote:
I need a CoSSH Assessment for multi-couloured paint if anyone can help.


I think we wrote one for tartan paint a couple of years ago, I'll see if we still have a copy.
mallen  
#25 Posted : 01 April 2011 10:58:46(UTC)
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mallen

bob howden wrote:
Hally wrote:
I need a CoSSH Assessment for multi-couloured paint if anyone can help.


I think we wrote one for tartan paint a couple of years ago, I'll see if we still have a copy.


do you have one for pokerdot paint Bob? 8)
sean  
#26 Posted : 01 April 2011 11:28:47(UTC)
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Just on my way out to purchase a normal hammer to hit myself over the head with!!

The workforce think its funny that I feel for it, well I do not in the least and will make sure every single one of them is issued with the "blink" version eye protectors!
We will see who thinks its funny then!
Andrew W Walker  
#27 Posted : 01 April 2011 11:38:12(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

sean wrote:
Just on my way out to purchase a normal hammer to hit myself over the head with!!



Would that be a RIDDOR if your were off for more than 3 days??
sean  
#28 Posted : 01 April 2011 11:46:36(UTC)
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Motorhead, no time off needed, my head is too thick for any type of injury!!
Andrew W Walker  
#29 Posted : 01 April 2011 11:50:26(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

sean wrote:
Motorhead, no time off needed, my head is too thick for any type of injury!!



In this job, your skin is as well
Zyggy  
#30 Posted : 01 April 2011 11:57:32(UTC)
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Sean, I get the feeling that other posters are not taking it seriously...I share your pain.

I now believe that the situation you describe in taking the hammers into the canteen strays into the area of global warming, & if ice caps are melting...what chance have you got?

Is it too late to build an Ark & then lead your employees onto it two by two?

sean  
#31 Posted : 01 April 2011 12:01:51(UTC)
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Zyggy at long last a voice of reason and support, at the moment though I hope the workforce all drown for fooling me.
Zyggy as you understand my peril, can you please let me know where I can get those "blink" eye protectors, I need to get the workforce back for what they did.
Thanks in advance
Zyggy  
#32 Posted : 01 April 2011 12:10:06(UTC)
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Zyggy

Sean, spookily I have a supply in my garage that I can let you have at cost price plus p&p.

They are the latest version & some people swear that they are almost invisible....actually they are invisible, but when you get the package you may think that it is empty, but I assure you that this is not the case.

I can send you an invoice for these, but just to make sure that you get the right style, please specify the "Emperor's New Clothes" model.
sean  
#33 Posted : 01 April 2011 12:13:46(UTC)
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Zyggy You're the man!!
A friend in need.......

I will PM my credit card details just let me know how much you have skimmed me for when ever its suits you.

Cheers Mate
Graham Bullough  
#34 Posted : 01 April 2011 13:07:51(UTC)
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This topic seems suspiciously related to the fact that today is a Friday - the traditional day for frivolity on this forum - and/or today's date! If both, a good dollop of whimsy is clearly appropriate.

Someone mentioned earlier a nice hammer. Can anyone suggest what criteria should be used to determine the niceness or otherwise of a hammer?

Also this topic reminds me of old tales about new apprentices at engineering works being sent to the stores to get diverse items such as buckets of steam, spirit levels with square bubbles and long stands. Some apprentices were smarter or better informed than others because they returned with buckets containing a small amount of water. When asked why they hadn't returned with steam as requested, they replied that the steam had condensed as they walked back from the stores!

It's also worth adding that some years ago a colleague of mine encountered an employee who thought that "low odour" paint was safe to use without respiratory protection because the vapour from its solvent
was notably heavier than air and thus tended to sink to the ground and well away from his breathing zone. It made us smile at the time, but also demonstrated the need to ensure that people properly understand technical terms which we in OS&H tend to take for granted.

Have an ice day!
alan w houghton  
#35 Posted : 01 April 2011 13:20:47(UTC)
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alan w houghton

good to know health & safety still has a sense of humour
Ron Hunter  
#36 Posted : 01 April 2011 13:35:32(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Good U.S. Progressive Rock band (Glass Hammer), been on the go for some years. Recommended to anyone who likes Yes.
Zyggy  
#37 Posted : 01 April 2011 13:53:27(UTC)
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Zyggy

Sean, thank you for sending me your credit card details.

As you appear to be a fine upstanding person I am sure you won't mind if I share these details with another poor soul who needs a few thousand pounds to enable him to release some funds. In return he has assured me that we will both be millionaires!

However, I stray from the serious business of assisting you in your quest for adequate PPE.

Now that you have got the vision & hearing safety under control, will you need respiratory protection, or a handkerchief as we in the profession like to call it?

I understand that various models are available at www.holdyourbreath.com
sean  
#38 Posted : 01 April 2011 13:58:45(UTC)
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Zyggy, fill your boots mate you scratched my back.....
Also as you have been so helpful, don't send the invisible "blink" eye protectors, that will save me on the postage, I will just pretend that I have them when I issue them out.

Not into hankies really, but if you have any other invisible aids please let me know and spend away on my credit card.
MrsBlue  
#39 Posted : 01 April 2011 14:09:28(UTC)
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Sean and Zyggy

Brilliant - brightened up my day!!!

Rich
Ajc100  
#40 Posted : 01 April 2011 14:12:53(UTC)
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sean wrote:

Not into hankies really, but if you have any other invisible aids please let me know and spend away on my credit card.


I know of a Nigerian Prince, who if offering an attractive business proposition if you're interested.
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