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Our client (a major buidling firm) is doing my nut.
They wont let me visit our employees on site (a tenanted council house) to carry out a H&S inspection without a valid CSCS card. I have a NEBOSH diploma & certificate, but these are not good enough!
They also insist that our employees wear bump caps (in a council house with no scaffolding etc). They have a policy where eye protection as well as bump caps are to be worn at all times within the property....oh yes add gloves to this list as well.
My electricians have put in near miss reports with the issue of gloves having to be worn when using drills (dexterity compromised) we have had one instance of the glove being tangled in the drill....only for the answer to be get gloves suitable for the task.....GLOVES AINT SUITABLE FOR THE TASK!!!!!
The eye protection they need for tasks requiring eye protection (drilling/chasing etc) then get steamed up because of the sweat being produced by having to wear all the PPE all of the time. The engineer cant see what he is doing when the task THAT NEEDS EYE PROTECTION IS BEING CARRIED OUT!
AND THEY STILL ARE ASKING ME FOR CRB CHECKS OF OUR EMPLOYEES, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SENT THEM AN EMAIL REPLY FROM CRB SAYING IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR US/ME/THEM TO ASK FOR CRB CHECKS!!!
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The problem is - what the Client wants, the Client gets. - After all - he's paying, so can ask for whatever he likes [as long as its legal]
If he wants more than is legally required - he can ask for it - after all. your charges will recoup the extra costs to you, unless your company didn't allow for them when tendering.
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Wasn't this all in the construction plan and not distributed prior to your employees starting work?
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Either comply or walk away!
But try getting into dialogue with the client and come to a resolution.
We have just completed a massive a massive power regen project offshore. The electrical switchrooms were classed as a "construction site" and offshore all PPE WILL be worn - and we managed it.
A bit of discussionand a can do attitude may help.
David
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MB1 wrote:Wasn't this all in the construction plan and not distributed prior to your employees starting work? Dont be 'saft' they make the rules up as they go along....we were 2 months into the contract when I was asked for our RA & MS... ...management failing on our side as well for not telling me we had picked up another contract!!!
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Interesting item I picked up on another website last night.
"CITB/ConstructionSkills has served notice to terminate its contract with CSCS"
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Guru Thanks but I gave up on IOSH membership when they downgraded TechSP to TechIOSH!
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Don't worry Zolt.
With that sort of attitude it won't be long before your company has no work and the problem will go away.
We have a gloves & glasses policy on all our sites - the fall in serious injuries speaks for itself.
There are suitable gloves & glasses when you bother to look.
All operatives wear the PPE without any problems now they know they have to.
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Walker wrote:Don't worry Zolt.
With that sort of attitude it won't be long before your company has no work and the problem will go away.
We have a gloves & glasses policy on all our sites - the fall in serious injuries speaks for itself.
There are suitable gloves & glasses when you bother to look.
All operatives wear the PPE without any problems now they know they have to. Oh please..... I want a glove and glasses policy .....brilliant.....but sensible (when there are risks to combat). Should eye protection, bump caps & FFP3 mask be worn at all times if they are bringing risks into play by doing so? Suitable glasses for what fresh air....or might an helicopter be flying over head and a bolt may come loose and fall from the sky into an engineers eye as he looks up.......may I say that your sort of attitude is what gives "elf and safety" its bad name.
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I am with Walker here.
It all comes down to risk assessment and the processes that are going on.
You also need to look at the bigger picture - If a site also had a history of eye injuries would it not look prudent to protect peoples eyes?
David
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Some hot air being sounded here!
History has told me that what the client wants the client usually gets in relation to site rules etc, sometimes they are challenged (directly.. Not via forums) and a positive result can occur!
Safety glasses & head protection are the norm within construction/fit out contracts as well as gloves. In most cases they also stipulate what gloves are acceptable.
My advice would be to work/communicate with them and find the most practicable and cost effective method of PPE and have a accident free and enjoyable period of work as planned.
BTW There are types of gloves that will reduce the likehood of entanglement from drills etc almost as much as likely as human skin but may be innapropiate for other heavy abrassive tasks (we used to have electricians wear them with good dexterity results)
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David H wrote:I am with Walker here.
It all comes down to risk assessment and the processes that are going on.
You also need to look at the bigger picture - If a site also had a history of eye injuries would it not look prudent to protect peoples eyes?
David Of course if they are doing some task/job/ process where there is a risk to the eyes........totally agree!
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