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Hi,
Intersting question for my first post...
A building I recently audited, is fitted out with external uPVC doors for all the internal doors - the sort you'd find as the front/back door for domestic residents.
Are these suitable for use - I'm not sure what effect a fire would have on these - aside from the fact they all have raised steps at the bottom that are significant trip hazards...
Cheers
Nick
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Odd
What is the buidliding used for?
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Hi Nick, yes it is possible to have pvc Fire Resisting doorsets that have Building Control Part B approval. Here is a link to one company that I found (I have no connection with them), and if you Google pvc Fire Doors you will find others. http://www.permadoor.co.uk/product-fire.aspAs with many things, you should always check out the "Certification" claimed by any supplier / manufacturer. PH
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A Kurdziel wrote:Odd
What is the buidliding used for? The area of the building with the uPVC is an affice area... These are normal, bog standard (if there is such a thing) doors that are fitted as front/back doors in houses...
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Apart from fire doors issue you say these have a raised threshold. How does that fit in with Equality legislation etc
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Hi Nick, could it be that the doors are intended as some kind of bunding between rooms? That would explain the nature of the watertight door and the raised step...it's starting to sound like a submarine! It would help the posters if we knew a bit more about the use of the building
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m wrote:Hi Nick, could it be that the doors are intended as some kind of bunding between rooms? That would explain the nature of the watertight door and the raised step...it's starting to sound like a submarine! It would help the posters if we knew a bit more about the use of the building To be honest, I think the doors were fitted purely because they were avalable to be used. The buildning is a manufacturing company, dealing with uPVC, and the doors are used in the offfice area. There would be no requirements for bunding, and the doors arent sealed at the bottem anyway. cheers
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First question - do the points where these doors are fitted require a fire door? (Fire compartment)?
Second point - do the doors have the necessary certification on the edge of the door (usually at the top)?
Third - does the manufacturer have the necessary certification for manufacturing fire doors?
Another - does the glazing have the necessary certification (I assume there are glazed panels)?
I would doubt that the raised threshold would be acceptable on a means of escape, depending upon the height of the raised area?
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ChrisBurns wrote:First question - do the points where these doors are fitted require a fire door? (Fire compartment)?
Second point - do the doors have the necessary certification on the edge of the door (usually at the top)?
Third - does the manufacturer have the necessary certification for manufacturing fire doors?
Another - does the glazing have the necessary certification (I assume there are glazed panels)?
I would doubt that the raised threshold would be acceptable on a means of escape, depending upon the height of the raised area?
I'll try and answer - however information is somewhat vague: 1) To be honest - I'm not 100% sure - my gut feeling is yes. there are two offices side by side, both approx 25x25 ft ish. Office 1 has only 1 dorr, which is the wall seperating the 2 offices. Office 2 has a further door on the side wall onto the main corridor. Both these doors are uPVC doors. 2) there are no markings on the dorrs - they are fairly old, and with alot of use are quite worn 3) no one even knows who the manufacturer is any more - they are that old. 4) likewise with the glazing. 5) the raised lip is approx 1" to 1.5" thanks for you help :)
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Nick, I'm not familiar with the building but if there is a suspended ceiling can you look above it and see if the wall the doors are in extends through to the roof? If not suspended ceiling can you access above the offices to look have a look?
It sounds like you have an "inner room" situation there? Do you have either vision panel (window) between the two offices or automatic fire detection in the inner room?
It appears to me that the premises is in need of a fire risk assessment if not had one already?
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ChrisBurns wrote:Nick, I'm not familiar with the building but if there is a suspended ceiling can you look above it and see if the wall the doors are in extends through to the roof? If not suspended ceiling can you access above the offices to look have a look?
It sounds like you have an "inner room" situation there? Do you have either vision panel (window) between the two offices or automatic fire detection in the inner room?
It appears to me that the premises is in need of a fire risk assessment if not had one already? Chris, you're spot on - it is an inner room, and you couldnt be mre right about the need for a fire risk assessment. There's no automatic fire detection, there were no fire extinguisher in either office (there is now) but there's no window between the rooms - just the door
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Nick you started off asking about doors and now you're into AFD and the need for a fire risk assessment.
I suggest you employ the services of a fire risk assessor to sort out all your fire needs.
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