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Citizen Smith  
#1 Posted : 01 June 2011 14:14:50(UTC)
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Citizen Smith

I've been asked by my son's school to help with a risk assessment for their summer fete as it appears they've never had one. I'm happy to help with it and I'll be speaking to the Head soon, but don't really want to spend too much time on it. Does anyone have an example of an assessment they have done for a school summer fete that I can pinch and use as a base? I'm not expecting anything other than the usual sort of activities although apparently there will be alcohol for the first time. Thanks heaps for the help.
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 01 June 2011 14:58:53(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

If they've "never had one", how can they be having alcohol "this time"?
sean  
#3 Posted : 01 June 2011 15:02:53(UTC)
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Like your style Ron!
Parker20149  
#4 Posted : 01 June 2011 15:13:39(UTC)
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Parker20149

never had a risk assesment before rather than never had a fete possibly??
SP900308  
#5 Posted : 01 June 2011 15:18:51(UTC)
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SP900308

'Happy to help but don't want to spend too much time on it' I'm sure it wouldn't take that long!
Citizen Smith  
#6 Posted : 01 June 2011 15:20:15(UTC)
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Citizen Smith

Given some of the replies I see on here I wonder why some people bother to read the forums. It seems often just to try and nit pick at other people's posts. However, for the sake of clarity, they have had many school fetes but not had risk assessments before and yes, this is the first time they have permitted alcohol. Ron, perhaps if you are not interested in actually helping someone there is somewhere else you can waste people's time.
Haines40637  
#7 Posted : 01 June 2011 15:56:56(UTC)
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Haines40637

Have one we've developed for schools events see link. The form is at the end of the document and like HSE approach it gets you to compare what you are proposing with best practice (given in generic form) and decide whether you need to do more etc. We've tried to cover as many activities as we could possibly think of so you remove all unnecessary rows and you should end up with a fairly concise and simple assessment http://www.gloucestershi...wnload.cfm?mediaid=32915 Hope this is useful - the beginning sections of the document are there to explain the process to the uninitiated but may help you if you get stuck
Citizen Smith  
#8 Posted : 01 June 2011 16:34:29(UTC)
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Citizen Smith

Thanks heaps to Haines40637 I've just had a quick look but it looks great and should save me heaps of time. Ta
DNW  
#9 Posted : 02 June 2011 11:55:55(UTC)
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DNW

Alcohol at a school fete? That's likely to present the most "significant risks" I would have thought. Most people can moderate but it only takes one idiot to cause mayhem. Plus the likelihood children may be able to gain access to it through less responsible parents or older looking peers. Just a thought!
Williamx  
#10 Posted : 02 June 2011 12:24:06(UTC)
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Williamx

They have a fete/picnic at my kids infants school every year, with alcohol (Pimms stall etc, or bring your own). There's never been any problems, the only downside I've ever seen is the increase in wasps from the mothers drinking alcopops and the increased 'risk' of getting your can of beer knocked over by the kids running riot. Seriously, though the biggest potential problem I've seen is the glass issue, insist on plastic glasses and no bottles, just cans, perhaps. William
Citizen Smith  
#11 Posted : 02 June 2011 12:52:43(UTC)
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Citizen Smith

I agree that the alcohol being present is a bit of a concern, as you say. it only takes one or two to have a bit too much. There will be at least one Police Officer (me) there (not for public order, just to let the kids see a police van and play with the siren and meet plod in a friendly environment etc. At the moment I don't know if it's being sold, bring your own or what, so will need to ask those questions. Thanks for the advice so far.
Invictus  
#12 Posted : 03 June 2011 08:27:18(UTC)
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Invictus

We used to hold quite a big fete, although i no longer have the documents requested so can't help there but I would recommend an alchol ban. How long does a fete last 4 hours at the most.
SP900308  
#13 Posted : 03 June 2011 08:49:05(UTC)
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SP900308

farrell, with all due respect - risk averse of risk management? Whilst I agree alcohol is possibly a bit 'miss-placed' at a School fête, I think 'banning' it is the reaction that would stimulate more 'unwelcome' attention from those ready to jump on the elf 'n' safety wagon.
Safety Smurf  
#14 Posted : 03 June 2011 08:56:55(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Citizen Smith wrote:
I agree that the alcohol being present is a bit of a concern, as you say. it only takes one or two to have a bit too much. There will be at least one Police Officer (me) there (not for public order, just to let the kids see a police van and play with the siren and meet plod in a friendly environment etc. At the moment I don't know if it's being sold, bring your own or what, so will need to ask those questions. Thanks for the advice so far.
That's just triggered a memory. I was at an emergency services show in Wiltshire a couple of years ago and our stand was facing an ambulance that was letting kids sound the array of sirens all day (the siren horn was forward facing and mounted in the bumper). Thankfully, a friendly salesman from a mail order company that supplies emergency services personnel let us have a handful of packets of ear plugs. Far better than what we were considering with expanding foam and wire cutters! It's fun for the kids but not for anyone else in close proximity all day.
Citizen Smith  
#15 Posted : 08 June 2011 17:34:09(UTC)
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Citizen Smith

Quite right Safety Smurf, it's not just those on other stands it'll be me that has enough as well. I think we will have to have strategic times when the sirens 'break'. We'll need to watch the battery as well. Very embarrassing when at the end of the day you try to leave and the vehicle won't start.
Ron Hunter  
#16 Posted : 08 June 2011 23:30:01(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

My question was an honest and sincere issue of clarification based on the wording of your post. The obvious reference is the HSE's (free pdf) Event Safety Guide at http://books.hse.gov.uk/...alogueCode=9780717624539 I bid you good day.
Invictus  
#17 Posted : 09 June 2011 07:55:48(UTC)
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Invictus

quote=SP900308]farrell, with all due respect - risk averse of risk management? Whilst I agree alcohol is possibly a bit 'miss-placed' at a School fête, I think 'banning' it is the reaction that would stimulate more 'unwelcome' attention from those ready to jump on the elf 'n' safety wagon.
Years ago I used to be able to go out on my lunch hour and have a few pints and go back to work, I can't do it now because it was banned min all workplaces to my knowledge. I don't see people up in arms about and 'unwelcome' attention being thrown at 'health and safety' I have been around the Disney parks and alcohol is not allowed and people appear to enjoy themselves. We are however talking about a school fete were young people will be in attendance, is it only us British who think that every time we have a fete etc that alcohol needs to be part of it. Sometimes we need to be averse to the risk posed and take into account everyone from babies to the old who will be present at the fete. Anyway by the time this post has finished the fete will be over
bob youel  
#18 Posted : 09 June 2011 08:43:13(UTC)
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bob youel

The one thing I advise is to get the head teacher and at least one governor to sign the RA as its supposed to be their document as the employer/controller Additionally they should have access [unless they or have deliberately chosen not to take up the service offered; which many schools have done recently] to their local LA H&Safety team so some help should already be in place
Tigers  
#19 Posted : 09 June 2011 09:04:15(UTC)
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Tigers

HI, Its not just the risk assessment you need I would also expect an event Policy and an event management plan. The assessment may tell you of the hazards but the Policy would be there to identify who placed those hazards an more so who would be responsible if it went belly up - as was the recent case of the low flying inflatable in Whitby. Trust me its not a quick fix to only have a copied risk assessment, if you are doing the job ensure its done well as it might return to bite you. Been there its not nice -I know
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