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When I watched Formula one in the 70's, it was a sad fact that drivers were being killed and seriously injured on a frequent almost weekly basis.
Now here we are in 2011, with one of the safest sports of its type around
Anyone who watched Perez's crash into the barrier at Monaco will have seen the way that the vast improvements in safety barrier and car construction techniques have contributed to driver safety while removing none of the thrills of motor sport.
In a age when we are accused of 'Elf and Safety - I ask the question "Should IOSH sponsor motor sport"
I welcome your views...
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In principle yes I am all for that; think of all the publicity - however with the costs involved in doing so (even with the membership fees as they are :-)) - I feel that the cost involved would be prohibitive - ps did you see Alan McNish (and the spectators/marshals etc) walk away from his accident at Le Mans?
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The way Hamilton is driving at the moment, this may be a bad time to link F1 with H&S. The bloke's a maniac!!!!
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It's another interesting initiative...which is bound to fail. Whilst it might be good kudos for IOSH I suspect it would do little for the racing team or fraternity. Whether we like it or not, some spectators enjoy the thrills and spills of a sport which despite the improvements in safety, still produces serious injuries and fatalities. The IOSH paradox is obvious, but the concept is incongruous to sport which thrives on high risk.
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A nice idea...but the petrolheads will not want the 'kudos' of having a health & safety organisation being associated with a sport that is inherently about taking risk. Thats before the cost of sponsorship comes into it. I suppose if IOSH offered them enough money they might, but I seriously doubt it. They should take a leaf out of Barcelona's book who used UNICEF as shirt sponsor (for free) to highlight their work across the globe.
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I have been a follower of motor racing, especially F1, for many years. As the OP has stated the improvements in safety have come a very long way since those 'dark years'. The last time a fatality occurred was at Imola in 1994 when, on one race weekend; Roland Ratzenberger lost his life in practice, Rubens Barrichello had a huge accident, and Ayrton Senna lost his life in the race!
F1 is huge business and costs millions of £'s to run a team. If IOSH wanted to involve themselves in motor racing then maybe sponsor a lower formula or another discipline of the sport.
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How about motor x, although there is guidance its a little out of date and most events/practice tracks could do with a little specialist advice.
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Not an expert in marketing, but I think the balance between the high cost of sponsering this or any other high profile sport compared to the additional income that might generate for IOSH, isn't going to stack up.
I can't see many of those guys who spend hours watching F1 dashing out to join IOSH as a result of seeing the logo whizz past on the side of Lewis Hamilton's (or anyone else) race car?
Probably the wrong thing for a H&S professional to say, but motorsport was a lot more interesting when there were pile-ups and crashes.....not that I wanted to see anyone injured, but you get my drift I hope.
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As some responders have already commented, IOSH almost certainly doesn't have the money needed to sponsor even a smidgeon of publicity via Formula 1 motorsport. Also, as I've no interest in or knowledge of motor racing, do any forum users happen to know roughly how many people actually watch Formula 1 motorsport at race courses and also on TV? (My ignorance of motor racing is shown by the fact that I didn't know that there was anything other than F1, mainly because F1 seems to have a monopoly of motorsport shown on TV.) Also, as F1 motorsport has become increasingly safer over the years, has the number of spectators diminished, perhaps because the incidence of crashes and spills has also diminished?
As for press and TV journalists, I guess that they prefer to report about deaths and injuries when they occur in motorsport, not least because there's more to report, and also more for their readers/viewers to read and view. When there's a crash like the recent one shown on the TV news (at Monaco?) and the driver simply gets out of the wreckage and walks away, there's little to report - which might explain the short duration of the news item involved.
However, to widen this topic, if IOSH sponsorship of F1 or similar motorsports is neither affordable nor appropriate, can forum users suggest alternative and cost-effective ways of promoting IOSH? Allied to this, is there a realistic chance of IOSH becoming as well known to most people in the UK, in say the next 5 or 10 years, as RoSPA has been for many years?
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I am with you on that one Max (last comment)- the drivers know the risks they are taking (IOM TT races prime example); that is part of the excitement of doing it (ex rally co-driver speaking); and that is partly why people go and watch; not only the speed (which can be very high indeed), noise, smell and the possibility of a crash (one always hope that it is not a biggie of course) but also to admire the skill, nerve and sheer determination of these drivers. That's why so many people tune in on a Sat/Sun to see men pushing them selves and technology to the limits. Sadly this is sometimes this can prove to be fatal (3 (?) this yr on the IOM). If this were to happen how would this then reflect upon IOSH one wonders?
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thank you for all your posts.
it posted this as a general discussion point
1 to acknowledge that safety has led to better motorsport and as one person stated its all about risk well now its amanaged risk
an excellent point i thought was how does IOSH sell itself, we tried sponsoring conkers and it fell flat (is that a pun?)
i love F1 and british touring cars where 'rubbing's racing' and yes a good crash is an 'oh my god, did you see that?'
i think IOSH does need to sell itself inthe way that ROSPA has
if the committee are listening in how about it?
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Sponsoring F1 would be wishful thinking at its extreme.
However IOSH sponsoring the world conker championships was nothing short of the work of a genius
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Anything like motorsport is in the public eye and has the means to be viewed by millions. I'm all for IOSH or others to play a part... So long as it isn't detracting from the core area of H&S in the workplace?
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The Olympic 500m Running With Scissors is the one they're really holding out for, though.
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safetyamateur wrote:The Olympic 500m Running With Scissors is the one they're really holding out for, though. I think the 500m jumping through hoops would be more appropriate in this profession. ;-)
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[Spoken in a cynical tone] The organisation could sponsor football referees, I mean everyone playing, managing and attending the games has nothing but respect for them (it even says it on all the players shirts for goodness sake), the referee is the most important person in the ground.
The IOSH logo would definitely get seen.
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Some forum users may be interested to learn that, according to a recent newspaper article, the BBC is considering whether or not to continue with broadcasting Formula One motorsport. The screening rights reportedly cost the BBC £57M per year or £3M per programme or about £1 per viewer. Even a mathematically challenged person like me can calculate from the final statistic that each programme is watched by about 3 million people. Does anyone know how this compares with the costs and viewing figures for other televised sports or even other types of programmes? No doubt the numbers of direct spectators and television viewers have a massive influence on potential sponsors and advertisers in their choices of sports and/or venues and how much they will pay or are charged.
Also, it seems inappropriate for IOSH to sponsor any sports or other activities on a significant scale, even if it had sufficient money to do so. Does anyone happen to know of any other professional bodies such as the Institution of Civil Engineers or organisations such as RoSPA doing so? Best to stick with competitions and awards, etc which are clearly relevant to IOSH and its members!
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GB,
Good point well put.
Good night.
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I know RoSPA shyed away from emblazoning their company cars with their logo for fear of one being involved in an accident and featuring as an ironic internet photo opportunity. It's just bound to happen.
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