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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 25 June 2011 12:11:26(UTC)
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firesafety101

GeoffB4  
#2 Posted : 25 June 2011 13:11:33(UTC)
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GeoffB4

I'm with vodaphone and they've always seemed OK!
johnmurray  
#3 Posted : 25 June 2011 15:02:11(UTC)
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johnmurray

"overheating or arching within the socket"
I'll assume they mean "arcing".
Good power supplies......overheating on a few milliwatts.
Sounds more like a "buy the expensive branded parts and not the cheap ones" thing.
Nothing about the PC power supplies that break interference immunity and safety regs....even though there are thousands in use..
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 25 June 2011 20:33:06(UTC)
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firesafety101

You may think I'm naive but i take this purely as a safety warning and nothing to do with a sales pitch.

Take it or leave it it's your safety after all.
RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 25 June 2011 21:34:13(UTC)
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RayRapp

So, will Lambeth Council Trading Standards be prosecuting the retailers of these dodgy products pursuant to the General Product Safety Regulations 2005? I won't hold my breath...
frankc  
#6 Posted : 26 June 2011 11:29:00(UTC)
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frankc

RayRapp wrote:
So, will Lambeth Council Trading Standards be prosecuting the retailers of these dodgy products pursuant to the General Product Safety Regulations 2005? I won't hold my breath...


Could always ask them, Ray.
edlancion  
#7 Posted : 26 June 2011 12:14:38(UTC)
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edlancion

well it happens to me one's when i buy charger for my CP, coz lots of this things are actually sold in different places here in ME, but now i'm carefull in buying this type of things in the market. i prepare to buy branded charger from the manufacturer itself.
firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 26 June 2011 15:45:01(UTC)
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firesafety101

edlancion wrote:
well it happens to me one's when i buy charger for my CP, coz lots of this things are actually sold in different places here in ME, but now i'm carefull in buying this type of things in the market. i prepare to buy branded charger from the manufacturer itself.


This reminded me of an ipod I once purchase on ebay and from Hong Kong.

It came well packaged and looked the real thing but when I charged it for the first time the thing went bang when it exploded in a puff of smoke in my living room.

I have never purchased anything from that place since.
firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 26 June 2011 15:46:37(UTC)
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firesafety101

ChrisBurns wrote:
https://www.thefpa.co.uk/FPA_Home/Advice_and_Guidance/E-newsletter/Latest_issue/Newsletter_detail_page/?ListItemID=1870&ListGroupID=407


I showed this to my wife who recently purchase a cheap charger for her phone. Reading this made her search the house for her proper charger and she found it.

The danger here has to be when you put your phone on charge and go to bed.
Nick A  
#10 Posted : 26 June 2011 20:56:38(UTC)
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Nick A

one more item here - i once dropped my mobile, no obvious damage, placed on charge - not an issue, on my way to bed called into the kitchen at which point i found my mobile 'red hot and sweating' on the work surface! could't pick it up, charger was still cold, pushed mobile onto metal draining board to cool. Close Call!! needless to say i didn't use it again.
johnmurray  
#11 Posted : 27 June 2011 10:03:06(UTC)
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johnmurray

They must have the relevant CE mark on or they cannot be sold.
Phil Grace  
#12 Posted : 27 June 2011 10:41:02(UTC)
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Phil Grace

Has been known for CE markings to be forged. For a litle "light" reading loook up the RAPEX reports on product recalls - just google it

The report for 2010 has just been published and makes for interesting reading

Phil
johnmurray  
#13 Posted : 27 June 2011 17:41:53(UTC)
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johnmurray

Never had a problem.
Mind you, all mobile phone makers have had recalls of at least one branded, compliant, charger sometime in the past.
As noted below.

http://news.uk.msn.com/w...?cp-documentid=150775104
CARL25764  
#14 Posted : 27 June 2011 19:59:44(UTC)
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CARL25764

many thanks. i have made our staff in our NHS trust aware.
paul.skyrme  
#15 Posted : 27 June 2011 20:06:42(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

Is that the Chinese Export CE mark or the EU CE mark?...

It is common in the electrical industry for CE marks and other approvals to be forged on imported equipment and it has been regularly reported in the electrical industry press.

The last time I mentioned where such things come from and the attitude of the supplying country in my experience, the moderators removed my post, so I can't suggest which country the majority of these devices may originate from.

I do believe that you can guess, or at least find it from reliable Internet sources in the electrical trace press with a simple search.
johnmurray  
#16 Posted : 28 June 2011 00:11:25(UTC)
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johnmurray

It is quite common for a product to be CE stamped but not comply with same.
However, the list for which CE is required does not include battery chargers, except for electromagnetic compatibility (which they usually fail anyway):
Active implantable medical devices
Appliances burning gaseous fuels
Cableway installations designed to carry persons
Eco-design of energy related products
Electromagnetic compatibility
Equipment and protective systems intended for use potentially explosive atmospheres
Explosives for civil uses
Hot-water boilers
In vitro diagnostic medical devices
Lifts
Low voltage
Machinery
Measuring Instruments
Medical devices
Noise emission in the environment
Non-automatic weighing instruments
Personal protective equipment
Pressure equipment
Pyrotechnics
Radio and telecommunications terminal equipment
Recreational craft
Safety of toys
Simple pressure vessels
johnmurray  
#17 Posted : 28 June 2011 00:13:12(UTC)
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johnmurray

And many of the "failed" chargers will have been made by the same manufacturer that makes "passed" products.
Jane Blunt  
#18 Posted : 28 June 2011 08:12:48(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

The list for CE marking includes 'low voltage'. These are the regulations that require the battery charger to be CE marked.

SimonL  
#19 Posted : 28 June 2011 13:34:49(UTC)
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SimonL

Please let's not get bogged down with the Chinese Export nonsense again. It doesn't mean anything, it's just an excuse for the remote possibility that anyone checks on the documentation.
As has been discussed here previously, virtually all CE marks even from genuine big name companies do not comply with the sizing requirements and the cheap imports just print it on like they apply all of the other approvals markings.
paul.skyrme  
#20 Posted : 28 June 2011 17:56:53(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

John,
As you said in your post the low voltage directive requires CE marking thus chargers must be CE marked.
As per the post by Jane above.

Simon,
I can't comment further on anything to do with Chinese Exports over and above the comments I have already made, else I am afraid that I will be moderated again.

Suffice to say, I am NOT on about the actual detail of the mark itself, as I have suggested research the issues that the electrical manufacturing industry has there are many reliable sources out there to back this up.
johnmurray  
#21 Posted : 28 June 2011 18:16:13(UTC)
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johnmurray

Since they are high voltage on the input.......and many are switched-mode....and can easily, given a fault condition, be high voltage on the output....
paul.skyrme  
#22 Posted : 28 June 2011 18:24:00(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

John,
Sorry but there is an error in your last post above, they are not high voltage at all they are low voltage, this is why they come under the low voltage directive.
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