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decimomal  
#1 Posted : 30 June 2011 12:28:36(UTC)
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decimomal

Scenario is a multi tenanted office block with 30 plus different organisations in it. There are currently no formal procedures in place for what happens in the event of a fire and the landlord/managing agent is not on site. Is there a document available that advises landlords/ managing agents of their responsibilities in terms of health and safety and fire safety? Many thanks.
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 30 June 2011 13:37:51(UTC)
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RayRapp

Yes, it called the Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order...
MaxPayne  
#3 Posted : 30 June 2011 13:47:29(UTC)
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MaxPayne

There was a good presentation at branch a few months ago on just this very subject. http://www.iosh.co.uk/br...ations/archive/2011.aspx
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 30 June 2011 14:26:07(UTC)
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firesafety101

RayRapp wrote:
Yes, it called the Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order...
Nice one Ray :-))
decimomal  
#5 Posted : 30 June 2011 15:06:25(UTC)
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decimomal

Thank you. I was not clear (as usual) in my initial posting, although I was careful to say Health and Safety and Fire Safety. Yes the RRO is absolutely applicable but I was loooking more for a publication of some sort that might give a summarrised version of the specific duties of a landlord in the circumstances that they could use as an aide memoir or checklist. I already had things like Health and Safety Risk Asssessments, Fire Risk Assessments, Means of Detection and Raising the Alarm, Evacuation, Cooperation and Coordination, Maintanence of Equipment, Lifts, Cleaning, etc etc etc. Not sure at first how to respond to Ray and Chris, and whether you were trying to be funny, but on reflection I blame my poor initial post! Anyone got any addition (serious) contributions? What happens with an absent landlord / Managing Agent and in the event that none of the tenants wishes to coordinate the fire evacuation / role call? Ta.
O'Donnell54548  
#6 Posted : 30 June 2011 15:26:49(UTC)
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O'Donnell54548

In my experience the Landlord/Managing Agent has tended to look after the 'hard' fire safety (alarms, emergency lighting, fire doors, signage etc) and the tenant the 'soft' fire safety (evacuation procedures, fire drills etc) and who does what is clearly defined in the lease agreement. I hope this helps.
MB1  
#7 Posted : 30 June 2011 15:40:49(UTC)
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MB1

Depends who has control of the premises although would be a nightmare in regards to civil tort! That's why it should be clear within the tenant agreement as to who is responsible for what! Likelihood is that any enforcement would end up in everyones laps if proceedings ever took place so all would have blame? Here's some goverment info regarding multi occupancy http://www.businesslink....layer?topicId=1074458562
R Pollock  
#8 Posted : 30 June 2011 15:53:08(UTC)
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R Pollock

Would the guidance for office buildings give you what you need to draft a checklist of actions required. (its a bit longwinded though so not sure it acts as a summary of what is required. I know there is an English version -but since based in Scotland only have the scottish version - www.firelawscotland.org. might be worth a look I had a situation where a shared tenancy office building did not cooperate, the advice from the fire service was to evidence all efforts to get cooperation ie letters and dates of phone calls etc and put your own plans in place for evacuation. another building we have is shared occupancy with multiple tenants although there is a managing agent on site. The agent has issued a fire assessment and evacuation procedure. They require each tenant to provide a fire policy and cooperate with their evacuation plan. They maintain all fire safety measures and schedule drills etc. They have not updated their assessment for several years so I have completed my own, written to them, spoken to them, recorded it and provided a copy of our fire policy. bit long winded - sorry - hope it is helpful also found this on on web - http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/fire_safety.htm it has a document for commerical property - might be useful Rebecca
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