Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
croberts  
#1 Posted : 02 August 2011 18:27:42(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
croberts

Can anyone tell me if a KEETONA HYDROFORM Universal Bending & Folding Machine is not in the same category as power presses and therefore regulations 31-35 and Schedules 2 and 3 of PUWER do not apply?

If this is the case (and taking into account that the rest of PUWER still applies) does anyone have any recommendations for what the minimum guarding would be needed for this type of machine? Obviously all the work would be a retro fit.

Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.
S Roberts  
#2 Posted : 02 August 2011 20:18:23(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
S Roberts

Does the machine have a flywheel?
croberts  
#3 Posted : 02 August 2011 20:46:53(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
croberts

I don't think so!!!!!! I had assumed that it was a pressbrake, only to be told that it was a Folding machine. I have gone through the PUWER regs and I am a bit confused as to whether it is still classed in the same category.

As they say "know your limitations"!!!!!!!!! and metal fabrication is mine!!!!!
smitch  
#4 Posted : 03 August 2011 08:52:27(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
smitch

croberts

Have you looked at http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/eis7.pdf

HTH
smitch
Clairel  
#5 Posted : 03 August 2011 09:07:12(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Clairel

hmmm, if I'm right then that's not the machine that he's talking about.

If it's the machine I think it is then it's not a power press and guarding will depend on how old it is and therefore what safeguards are already in place. You can look at either restricting the aperture between the dangerous part to 6mm (so that a hand can't be put in) or restriciting the speed of stroke to 12mm/sec or less (so that someone could remove their hand in time). You would also be looking at preventing side and rear access, lightguards are often used to prevent side access, interlocking guards at rear.

I'm sure the HSE used to do an info sheet on it but I can't find it. All my guidance is still in boxes from my recent move and so can't look in there either. Sorry :-(
walker  
#6 Posted : 03 August 2011 09:18:35(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
walker

I googled and from pictures I found I'd say its a pressbrake

It needs pretty much what Claire says about stroke speed guards etc
Some people use light guards but they are not that practical
walker  
#7 Posted : 03 August 2011 09:26:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
walker

Go to HSE website
Type pressbrake into search (the one at top right)
Brings up Enforcement notices
scroll to number 3 &4
Ellwood  
#8 Posted : 10 August 2011 10:21:15(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Ellwood

Having worked in metal fabrication a few years ago I am presuming that if the equipment is a folding machine and it operates by the bottom folding upwards? If so the equipment will push the operator away if they are too near it. We modified all of our folders with a dead man handle which would stop the operation as an added protection. During my time there we had two visits from the HSE and on both occasions they commented positively on the modification.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.