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kimberleya1  
#1 Posted : 12 August 2011 15:27:16(UTC)
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kimberleya1

Hi all, Never had anything to do with CDM, and remember it being fairly confusing during my diploma, so a brief overview from someone in the know would be great. Current company is planning to do significant rebuild work on one of their sites next year. It will be notifiable to the HSE. The majority, if not all of the design, fabrication etc can be done in house. Does this mean we can nominate individuals to take on the responsibilities referenced in the legislation - does this need to be official (involving HR)? I am guessing that the coordination will be minimal since it is all one company, but that someone will still need to develop the safety plan, file etc. As far as I understand it, one of the main aims of the legislation is to ensure that different companies on a construction project work together to ensure safety, which is why I am a bit unclear if it all applies if it is one company doing everything, if you understand what I mean... Appreciate some words of wisdom from any experts out there, many thanks :)
PH2  
#2 Posted : 12 August 2011 15:39:14(UTC)
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PH2

Hi Kimberley, you can do all of the work yourself CDM, Designer, Principal Contractor, provided that you are competent to do so (including experience of CDM, Design and construction processes etc), and there is no conflict of interest. If you haven't already done so, download a copy of the Approved Code of Practice L144 (free from HSE publications). I would also suggest that you download and read the free guidance produced by Construction Skills ; it is straightforward advice. http://www.cskills.org/s...regs/guidance/index.aspx PH2
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:03:37(UTC)
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bob youel

K You really need to take note of and take in the very valid points made by PH2 especially with regards to competence And unless coordination is very good even though its one company U may find that things will get out of hand especially so as U use the term 'fabrication' - Can you provide us with a brief description of the project so as we can help. Additionally if your project value [less VAT] is at £300K and above SWAMP will also apply as the EPA and associated law aready does I find that if manufacturing/fabrication companies are involved then the work etc is usually at good standards as they bring manufacturing/fabrication standards into building areas which can only be a good thing Best of luck
mootoppers  
#4 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:12:53(UTC)
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mootoppers

Bob - having a blank moment - SWAMP? No doubt I'll bang my forehead in stupidity once told.
kimberleya1  
#5 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:35:33(UTC)
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kimberleya1

Yeah, I'd appreciate a definition of SWAMP too. :) Really appreciate the fast response, I will come back to you with more detailed info on the project when I have it, but it is basically a expansion/rebuild of a site that handles offshore wastes and processes them etc etc. Will include office buildings, operational storage areas etc. I will definitely look at the documents you mentioned PH2, thanks very much. Have a good weekend guys.
kenty  
#6 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:44:40(UTC)
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kenty

Not sure about SWAMP? unless you mean SWMP (Site Waste Management Plan)? The guidance from the cskills website is written in a straight forward manner and covers all the key points in detail. It has the added benefit of being split into the various roles. There is also some useful information available from the APS, although i think this is via a paid service.
kenty  
#7 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:50:06(UTC)
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kenty

Where's the edit button when i need it..... I forgot to mention checking the appendicies of the CDM ACoP (L144) for suggested qualifications/experience to demonstrate competence. Hope that helps
kimberleya1  
#8 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:53:13(UTC)
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kimberleya1

It does, thanks.
bob youel  
#9 Posted : 12 August 2011 16:57:54(UTC)
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bob youel

Give me a break as its Friday after all; plus my Zimmer frame is acting up SWAMP = Site Waste and Management Plan ------- I have just made that up! YEP I meant SWMP! Best of luck
Ron Hunter  
#10 Posted : 12 August 2011 17:20:43(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

There is no absolute requirement to nominate individuals. For the purposes of the F10, your employer will be identifed as Client, CDM-C and PC.
bob youel  
#11 Posted : 15 August 2011 07:58:35(UTC)
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bob youel

Noting U said 'we have had noting to do with CDM' I advise that U get a H&S person in who has experience just to give U some guidance especially where the work is completely outside your companies experience
peter gotch  
#12 Posted : 15 August 2011 13:19:05(UTC)
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peter gotch

SWMP requirements do not apply in Scotland where I'm assuming the project will be.
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