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Summary: Care home owners and operators are being made aware of a new court ruling reinterpreting the position on self-closing fire doors. Determination in respect of the use of self-closing devices on bedroom doors in a care home http://www.communities.g...nts/fire/pdf/1946970.pdf
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https://www.thefpa.co.uk...1949&ListGroupID=414I've put my link into this thread as no use having two almost identical going at once. Apologies to firesafetybod. Mods please remove/lock my thread re this topic. Reading the enforcing authority opinions I wonder if there will be a prosecution as the Responsible Person is now deemed to be at fault. Further reading the report it appears the fire risk assesser has been very thorough in his assessment and I wonder how well qualified he/she is? Further still does this point to keeping to the requirements of the regulations and not interpreting at all?
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As per a different thread I posted. Any chance of an overview of the ruling?
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I wonder what sort of impact this will have on other types of sleeping accommodation, such as hostels, half way houses, etc.
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Could have implications to anywhere there is a possibility of accommodating vunerable people
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Hi,
From all that I have read am I now right to assume that it is a requirement to fit self-closing devices on all bedroom doors in care homes?
Are the doors with the sound activated release mechanism still ok to have in place?
Many thanks
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jay, if you read through the report there is mention of that type of device.
I believe the report is saying to rely on devices rather that people.
IMO I have always thought self closers were required anyway in sleeping accommodation.
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jay brogan wrote:Hi,
Are the doors with the sound activated release mechanism still ok to have in place?
Many thanks I would not rely overly on the sound activated devices, and would invest in self closers linked to the alarm system. I have all to often heard the fire alarms go off and the sound activated devices are still holding the doors open - in my opinion they are next to useless as a fire protection measure. SBH
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I have to say that the Resp Person's idea of cherry picking the 'good' bits from ADB, DCLG guides, BS9999 and HTMs -and then ignoring the more 'difficult' bits - this was always going to end in tears.
With the sheer amount of guidance around now, this is always a risk. Isn't it about time that the Govt had a cull of the countless pieces of guidance by establishing the DCLG guides as the 'primary' guides. They may have to be re written and perhaps incorporate some of the ADB & HTM stuff, but it would make compliance so much easier...wouldn't it?
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