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MB1  
#1 Posted : 23 August 2011 12:09:07(UTC)
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MB1

http://www.telegraph.co....kled-Somali-pirates.html Good old DT but if true... tut tut to them all!
MarcusB  
#2 Posted : 23 August 2011 12:22:26(UTC)
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MarcusB

This will be interesting to read if any clear facts of the case come out...
MarcusB  
#3 Posted : 23 August 2011 12:26:14(UTC)
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MarcusB

Also, it's sad to see how many people commenting on the article blamed the HSE for this even though they were not involved. And typical to see a number of people suggesting that those working in health and safety be killed due to their job: "It's a shame the Marines didn't put the idiots up against the castle wall", "they could have done us all a favour and shot the pathetic halfwitted jobsworths at HSE"...
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 23 August 2011 13:02:34(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

No fast-roping, no simulated shooting, but presumably the "asbestos gloves" mentioned in the report are O.K. Ah well, makes a change from kid gloves and cotton wool...........................
O'Donnell54548  
#5 Posted : 23 August 2011 13:26:26(UTC)
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O'Donnell54548

At the risk of having my head bit off can I suggest that this is an example of when a risk can be mitigated, and when it can not? If a Marine was to sustain a serious/fatal injury while storming a Somali pirate ship they would be held up as a hero, if the same Marine suffered a serious/fatal injury while taking part in a public demonstration hard questions would be asked, by the authorities and the Marines family, as to why this was allowed to happen. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't?????
Safety Smurf  
#6 Posted : 23 August 2011 14:09:57(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Having fast roped and abseiled I can tell you they are not the same thing. But there are similarities and any full trained marine will have done both. For the sake of speed and weight of equipment, the techniques and materials used during combat are quite different to those used in industrial roped access. The difference often being if you let go of the rope in the military.....your dead or seriously injured! I have been to the Edinburgh Military Tattoo this year and witnessed one of the Marines stumble and lose his footing as he started his descent. The Royal Marines are very fit, highly trained and very brave but they are still human and not infalable. If a Marine were to go down in Afganistan we may end up sending a fully manned medical evacuation team in a helicopter to attempt to save him. Why risk his or her life here just for the sake of your entertainment? As for the actual boarding party demonstration? I've seen cadets do better but everyone I saw on deck was in No;8's so I don't think they were Marines.
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