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The attached link highlights a rather strange case where a self-employed roofer was prosecuted for breaching s3(2) HSWA. It appears from the article the roofer was engaged in domestic work. There is a widely held view that domestic building work, save for the odd exception, is not covered by statute health and safety laws. However, assuming it is a domestic client it is an interesting case and presumably s3(1) would equally apply under similar circumstances? The facts of the case are a bit basic and it is not clear if the deceased - a 'friend', is visiting or assisting the roofer. It is not so unusual for a self-employed worker in the building trade to cut corners by not having a SSoW on domestic work. What is unusual is the manner of the accident and the severity of the punishment. Interested to hear your views. http://www.shponline.co....-for-friend-s-fatal-fall
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The 'widely held view' is not held by me. H&S laws apply to the workplace; both the traders were at work, albeit on a domestic property. Had he been fixing his own roof it may be different.
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Ray I didn't expect you to raise this one unless you are seeing what it provokes.
I do not see any problem with this as the roofer was "contracted" to re-roof the garage and was a roofing contractor. In this case S3(2) was quite correct as he has to prevent harm to other people, including his friend who climbed up to see him, rather than getting involved with the work. It was unfortunate that he had a stroke at that moment, but if the guarding had been better he may have survived by not falling to the floor.
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I'm wholly with roly and m here, but I am intrigued as to how it could be accurately determined that the DP suffered the stroke before the fall. All seems a bit 'hearsay' - he could just have fallen? Ray, I think there is a big clue as to the circumstance of the DP visit given by the HASAWA Section prosecuted? s3(2) equally reflects a failure to protect himself.
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Ron, presumably the post-mortem identified a stroke? To what extent the stroke caused the deceased to lose control and fall is an intersting aspect of this case. If the 'but for' test was applied, then clearly the stroke would not have been demeed a significant contributory factor.
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This is one those cases where it would have been interesting had the defendant elected for trial.
Lack of perimeter edge protection difficult to defend
but the leading edge is sustantially different
- and I doubt that all aspects of the roof replacement could have been done from a tower (or MEWP or birdcage) not least since the photograph appears to show roof timbers which would then be felted etc.
So unless one could reach all parts of the roof from a tower at the edges (which I doubt) then he has to go on top. There are ways of providing leading edge protection but each has one or more disadvantages. Accidents at the leading edge are fairly rare, though occurred in one of the 10 roofwork fatalities I have investigated.
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Peter, thanks for your erudite comments. There are indeed a number of 'interesting' facts to this case, the method of work as criticised by the HSE is yet another which gives rise to some concern as you have rightly pointed out.
No one has mentioned the gravity of the sentence...
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I guess the court was probably thinking 12 months with a third off for early guilty plea, though technically I think the maximum discount is currently 30%.
Ultimately this man will probably have the death of a friend on his conscience for the rest of his life. Suspending the sentence seems right to me - not least since unlikely to get any societal benefit from adding yet one more to our overcrowded prisons.
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I thought the suspended 8 month sentence a bit harsh, especially when you consider the paltry sanctions handed out, including £1 fines for fatalities where there is arguably more culpability. That said, given the one-off nature of incident it is unlikely to invoke the suspended sentence. Of course, the real punishment as you have rightly identified is the loss of a friend.
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