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richard wilks  
#1 Posted : 15 September 2011 17:58:34(UTC)
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richard wilks

Can Confined Space Training with emergency escape breathing apparatus raining be realistically provided by small training organisations operating at the clients venue? This question is puzzling me,I wondered what others thought.

I also wonder if the breathing apparatus can be provided at a clients non specialist venue - would this work.
linda xc  
#2 Posted : 15 September 2011 19:25:32(UTC)
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linda xc

Hi


Generally a simulated confined space can be used for entry, and escape sets are pretty standard so the training should equip people to prepare themselves for a situation and evacuate. We use a kitted out container, however the use of BA kit needs to be to what the cleint uses with face fits and medicals etc in place before training commences. Also it depends on the space used in training and entry method - is it the same as the real thing?

Regards

Linds
Steve Sedgwick  
#3 Posted : 15 September 2011 23:58:30(UTC)
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Steve Sedgwick

Richard
"Some" Confined Space safety training can be carried out in a classroom and that could cover the use of escape sets.
NB. The size of a training organisation is not a measure of competence.
Steve
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 16 September 2011 09:14:24(UTC)
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bob youel

Note what Steve S has said; and I have evaluated many training organisations and found competence etc to be very varied and has noting to do with the glossy [ & expensive] marketing paperwork supplied

HSSnail  
#5 Posted : 16 September 2011 09:33:11(UTC)
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HSSnail

If the clients venue is where the confined spaces work is being undertaken then I would have thought it was the ideal location for the training to be given?
PIKEMAN  
#6 Posted : 16 September 2011 13:00:36(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

I agree with the comment about organisation size and competence having no correlation. I would also say that, in my experience, confined space training, confined space rescue training and BA training are three different areas. They could all conceivably take quite some time, and in this area, the training has to be rigorous.
jarsmith83  
#7 Posted : 16 September 2011 13:12:24(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Pikeman wrote:
I agree with the comment about organisation size and competence having no correlation. I would also say that, in my experience, confined space training, confined space rescue training and BA training are three different areas. They could all conceivably take quite some time, and in this area, the training has to be rigorous.



I agree with Pikeman and the above comments. I would however, recommend training through Thames Water, or an alike water company. The confined space guidance, originally was drafted from Thames Water guidance. You can get very good courses by nurmerous course providers but, with regards specifically to BA training, this is training that is going to be used in serious circumstances, and I would want the best training possible.
peter gotch  
#8 Posted : 16 September 2011 13:20:53(UTC)
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peter gotch

A large proportion of purpose built confined space training centres simulate entry into a sewer. Now if you are a highways bridge inspector whose work involves going into box girder bridges, doesn't it make sense to take the trainer to a bridge instead of taking the delegates to the training centre?
Brett Day SP  
#9 Posted : 16 September 2011 14:24:49(UTC)
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Brett Day SP


We use a certain Mines Rescue company for our confined spaces training, they have a trailer mounted rig which is the usual sewer chamber environment, however, they will conduct area specific training on our sites and our confined spaces - I'd highly recommend them.
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