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Big Nick  
#1 Posted : 07 October 2011 18:17:25(UTC)
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Big Nick

Courtesy of The Sun, Oct 7 2011. 'A Kid's conker contest at a castle had to be cancelled - because they would have to wear gloves and goggles. Organisers were told by insurers of the health and safety rules. And they needed the parents of every child to sign a consent form. Alan Goldsmith, who owns Mountfitchet Castle in Stanstead, Essex, said: "It's a shame. It's only a conker fight, not a physical fight"' I thought we were supposed to be stamping this sort of thing out? I aplogise for the English only I quoted from the newspaper.
Graham Bullough  
#2 Posted : 07 October 2011 19:05:56(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

My understanding is that the wearing of eye protection for playing conkers started at a Cumbrian school (Cummersdale Primary School, Carlisle) in 2004. Apparently the headteacher had seen advice (perhaps from the County Council) which 'banned' the playing of conkers. Therefore, his counter response was the game could be played, but with eye protection against the possibility of flying fragments. It was later reported apparently that the headteacher intended the eye protection as something of a spoof about 'over the top' interpretations of health & safety. Perhaps this was a reaction to the considerable media interest in the matter. Those of us in IOSH will know that for several years or more afterwards, the IOSH presidential team, probably plus others, fielded a team at the National Conker Championships as part of its "Conkers Bonkers" campaign. My understanding may be incorrect. Therefore, please can others shed more informed light on this topic? As for 'The Sun' extract, it would be interesting to know which insurer (if any) was involved and which alleged 'health & safety rules' were being invoked! Common sense evidently remains uncommon despite the Prime Minister's assertion about it in his conference speech this week
barnaby  
#3 Posted : 07 October 2011 19:25:55(UTC)
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Graham Bullough wrote:
My understanding is that the wearing of eye protection for playing conkers started at a Cumbrian school (Cummersdale Primary School, Carlisle) in 2004. Apparently the headteacher had seen advice (perhaps from the County Council) which 'banned' the playing of conkers. Therefore, his counter response was the game could be played, but with eye protection against the possibility of flying fragments. It was later reported apparently that the headteacher intended the eye protection as something of a spoof about 'over the top' interpretations of health & safety. Perhaps this was a reaction to the considerable media interest in the matter.
This was the Headteachers take on it in his letter to the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.u...ggles-myth-health-safety
rayh  
#4 Posted : 07 October 2011 20:53:47(UTC)
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Ray Hurst

Big Nick. We are, yesterday I did a rebuttal story on the Ray Clarke BBC Radio Essex breakfast show. We can but keep trying to dispel the myths of this type that return to haunt us far too regularly. Although in this case the insurers would cover the event but only if the organisers paid an extra £1000 in premium and the kids wore eye protection and "body armour" as part of the deal. It was suggested the organisers ought to consider a "go compare" option and look for alternatives for cover. As an aside I see this years World conker championships (which IOSH sponsored for two years running) due to be held over the coming weekend have been cancelled because strong winds have made it impossible to erect the marquees. At least it isn't 'elf and safety getting the blame.
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