Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
tester  
#1 Posted : 21 October 2011 11:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
tester

I did an Anti-slip paint job on a boat's walkway (Luxury bar/restaurant venue on the Thames) recently for a client who had slip issues. That's now been sorted. On the back of that he's asked me if I could paint the hull. Naturally I said yes (£££ signs whizzing through my head), but I know absolutely nothing about the H&S practicalites of dangling over the side of the vessel. Anyone with any experience of this?? Kit req'd etc etc
rockybalboa  
#2 Posted : 21 October 2011 12:02:18(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
rockybalboa

You might want to look into some type of bosun's chair design. You can see them when they clean high rise office wnodows. They work their way along. Dont know about securing it though, may have to look into some kind of gantry system.
Roly  
#3 Posted : 21 October 2011 12:12:31(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Roly

I presume this is not in the water, in which case a normal access system, such as a tower system or possibly a step ladder depending on the height. If it is still in the water and you are only doing the top bit, then you will also need a life jacket. The owner should be able to loan you one if you promise not to get covered in paint!
tester  
#4 Posted : 21 October 2011 12:17:05(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
tester

roly wrote:
I presume this is not in the water, in which case a normal access system, such as a tower system or possibly a step ladder depending on the height. If it is still in the water and you are only doing the top bit, then you will also need a life jacket. The owner should be able to loan you one if you promise not to get covered in paint!
Hi Roly, it's moored up and hasn't moved for 30 years. So we're just painting what's visible
MB1  
#5 Posted : 21 October 2011 12:20:32(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
MB1

Working over water you will need to consider where practicable how you can prevent falling into the water, life saving equipment, and rescue as the current can take you away very swiftly
O'Donnell54548  
#6 Posted : 21 October 2011 13:01:24(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
O'Donnell54548

Depending on the size of the vessel you may consider working from a floating pontoon.
bob youel  
#7 Posted : 21 October 2011 13:07:50(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
bob youel

what do you do to stop paint dropping or if it has dropped? That may be a question asked by the EA if you are doing this either in/or out of the water; the point being is that you need to update yourself re these environmental areas
tester  
#8 Posted : 21 October 2011 13:15:48(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
tester

Originally Posted by: O' Go to Quoted Post
Depending on the size of the vessel you may consider working from a floating pontoon.
I thought about that, but looking at the speed of the current last night, maybe not !
tester  
#9 Posted : 21 October 2011 13:16:52(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
tester

bob youel wrote:
what do you do to stop paint dropping or if it has dropped? That may be a question asked by the EA if you are doing this either in/or out of the water; the point being is that you need to update yourself re these environmental areas
If it drips, it drips into the Thames - hardly a catastrophe
Rory H  
#10 Posted : 21 October 2011 13:46:38(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Rory H

I recently saw a couple of guys painting a container ship in Felixstowe docks. They were using a long reach flexible handled roller and simply painting it from the deck. The second guy was on the dock side directing matey boy on the deck for the bits he couldn't see so well. I would preference working from a floating pontoon. Having worked in the marine industry for many years this type of system would be much easier for you to do your job and provide increased safety. A lifejacket is essential and given the high speed of the Thames I would probably want to use a lanyard. Most self inflating lifejackets these days include a harness and various types and lengths of lanyards can be bought from most marine stores/chandleries. This will work with the harness system in the life jacket.
O'Donnell54548  
#11 Posted : 21 October 2011 14:17:15(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
O'Donnell54548

Don't want to get your hackles up Tester, but looking over your thread it may suggest that you are not a 'competent' contractor to carry out this work.
tester  
#12 Posted : 21 October 2011 14:35:04(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
tester

Originally Posted by: O' Go to Quoted Post
Don't want to get your hackles up Tester, but looking over your thread it may suggest that you are not a 'competent' contractor to carry out this work.
Very true, but we'll not let that get in the way of work in these tight times. Rory's idea of the long poles (and a life jacket) looks the favoured route.
AllanFS  
#13 Posted : 21 October 2011 15:40:35(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
AllanFS

Tester Being an ex-offshore scaffolder with vast overboard experience, where the scaffolders go over the side of the Oil platform there where certain procedures and Control Measures but in place before going overboard. Providing a Safe Access and Egress for the operatives is the First thing to consider, maybe a Rope Access company can be hired as hiring Scaffold will be to costly. The rope access operatives are trained and multi disciplined in a number of trades, so painting won't be a problem. Important that a rescue plan is in place for actions on operatives falling and dangling from their harness. Having a safety boat is a possibility as the currents in the Thames are fast flowing, a watchman with communications onboard to summon emergency services in the event of persons going overboard. A complex operation when you summon up the Risks but can be overcome with the introduction of some of the above Control Measures. Give me a PM if need any more info/advice as there's more I could add without going on. Good Luck. Allan
AllanFS  
#14 Posted : 21 October 2011 15:41:39(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
AllanFS

Tester Being an ex-offshore scaffolder with vast overboard experience, where the scaffolders go over the side of the Oil platform there where certain procedures and Control Measures but in place before going overboard. Providing a Safe Access and Egress for the operatives is the First thing to consider, maybe a Rope Access company can be hired as hiring Scaffold will be to costly. The rope access operatives are trained and multi disciplined in a number of trades, so painting won't be a problem. Important that a rescue plan is in place for actions on operatives falling and dangling from their harness. Having a safety boat is a possibility as the currents in the Thames are fast flowing, a watchman with communications onboard to summon emergency services in the event of persons going overboard. A complex operation when you summon up the Risks but can be overcome with the introduction of some of the above Control Measures. Give me a PM if need any more info/advice as there's more I could add without going on. Good Luck. Allan
boblewis  
#15 Posted : 23 October 2011 08:49:06(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
boblewis

Looking at the other post re Risk Assessment by the same poster he may of course be undertaing the RA for the Painter and not actually doing it. If this is the case then perhaps he needs to get somebody else to do it. Bob
SNS  
#16 Posted : 24 October 2011 10:55:45(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
SNS

Not as straightforward as slapping paint on - it will simply peel off unless the surface is properly prepped. Prepping usually involves HAVS risks from machinery used. What paint system is propopsed - 'most' boat paint is 2 pack isocyanate for longevity and finish quality. Will the boat be in use whilst the work is going on? protecting the public / crew will be worth considering. As other has mentioned, working over water can be problematic. S
Users browsing this topic
Guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.