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Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#1 Posted : 25 October 2011 10:33:16(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Am I correct in thinking that there is no classification for a WRULD's injury under RIDDOR? Have checked the HSE website but thought to ask just in case I missed it.

Thanks in advance

Badger
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 25 October 2011 11:44:18(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Not strictly WRULD but if you look at RIDDOR Regulation 5- reportable diseases Schedule 3 Part 2:
“Cramp of the hand or forearm due to repetitive movements. Work involving prolonged periods of handwriting, typing or other repetitive movements of the fingers, hand or arm But only if this is a chronic condition linked to repetitive work movements. The condition is usually characterised by the inability to carry out a sequence of what were previously well co-ordinated movements. An acute incident of cramp which may occur in the course of work is not reportable.”
See http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l73.pdf
chris42  
#3 Posted : 25 October 2011 12:04:18(UTC)
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chris42

WRULD covers many things, but includes HAVS, which is a reportable disease. Under reg 5 schedule 3 part I, disease number 14 from column 1.

If it is not a HAVS issue, then to be of any further help you need to provide a bit more info.

Hope this helps

Chris
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#4 Posted : 26 October 2011 12:37:06(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

The person in question is soldering with the body in a static position whilst soldering small parts and has been diagnosed as carpel tunnel syndrome sufferer - work related. Here the afflicted also plays a guitar in a band so feel work is only 50% of the problem.

Badger
chris42  
#5 Posted : 26 October 2011 13:40:17(UTC)
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chris42

Although there is a category for carpal tunnel syndrome (13), I would not think that any of the equipment used vibrates, soldering irons don’t anyway. However it could fall under disease number 12 which is :- Traumatic inflammation of the tendons of the hand or forearm or of the associated tendon sheaths.

If and only if the work involves

a) Physically demanding work,
b) frequent or repeated movements,
c) constrained postures or
d) Extremes of extension or flexion of the hand or wrist.

I would not have thought item (a) would apply but the others may, only you are aware of the set up and work conditions you have. You may want to check with someone with greater medical knowledge that the above definition fits exactly with carpal tunnel (do you have a works doctor ?).

Hope this helps give a way forward.

PS work may be only 50% to blame and is only an issue if there is a claim. But if it meets the above definitions then you should report it. If you think there will be a claim get as much info as possible about how long and how frequently the person plays any other hobbies etc, before they clam up. I have had carpal tunnel which was from using a computer for long hours when tired etc at least that is what the consultant said. Your other defence would be if no others who have been doing the work for more years have had any problems.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#6 Posted : 26 October 2011 14:46:40(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks Chris
Had a feeling it was reportable after reading RIDDOR but thought to obtain another persons perspective on it.
As a sme no works doctor but considering asking for access to individuals GP for further info hence my other posting recently.

Badger
Fletcher  
#7 Posted : 27 October 2011 13:02:35(UTC)
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Fletcher

Barrie,

RIDDOR Reg 5, 2a.
In the case of an employee, the responsible person has received a a written statement prepared by a registered medical practitioner diagnosing the disease as one of those specified in Schedule 3.

Then you must report so unless/until you have written notification from a medical practitioner that your employee has the disease you do not report.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#8 Posted : 27 October 2011 15:03:11(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks Flet,
We haven't receive any written notification as yet so will be monitored.

Badger
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