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SW  
#1 Posted : 28 October 2011 13:11:31(UTC)
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SW
Hi Please could someone point me in the right direction for the construction of a spray paint room to be built in a warehouse. I have information on Motor Vehicle Repair safety and info from HSE on using two part isocyanate paints, about the use of booths and rooms and RPE but need advice on the fittings / equipment. I thought these have to be intrinsically safe for use in a flammable atmosphere and the room fire resisting - but someone has cast doubt in my mind! Do they and where can I get details of the construction of a room from? Thank you SW
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asftrg  
#2 Posted : 28 October 2011 13:37:39(UTC)
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asftrg
Hi We have been involved in the refinishing area for many years if you would like to contact us at asftraining@live.co.uk we should be able to help don't worry there is no cost and we do not sell spray booths or equipment. You are right all electrical equipment used in a spray bay should be intrinsically safe
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leadbelly  
#3 Posted : 28 October 2011 13:44:35(UTC)
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leadbelly
Have you seen 'the spraying of flammable liquids - HSG 178: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg178.pdf? LB
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SW  
#4 Posted : 28 October 2011 13:50:40(UTC)
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SW
Thank you very much for your prompt replies asftrg and leadbelly. I will pass your details on to my friend. I hold my hand up - I actually looked through HSG 178 yesterday along with 8 other info sheets and it already slipped my mind - very good advice in it. Thank you both again SW
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bob youel  
#5 Posted : 28 October 2011 14:17:31(UTC)
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bob youel
The control of environmental emissions are very stringent in this area so you also need to consider how you will comply with environmental law and control such emissions
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SW  
#6 Posted : 28 October 2011 15:00:33(UTC)
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SW
Thanks Bob That crossed my mind too - more digging required!! Regards SW
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Phillips20760  
#7 Posted : 28 October 2011 15:09:22(UTC)
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Phillips20760
Ask your local council. They will issue a paint permit which details what environmental standard are necessary so may e able to give you a standard of what is required. I think the standard for construction may have been BS EN 12981 although I'm not sure, check before you buy
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chris42  
#8 Posted : 28 October 2011 17:47:46(UTC)
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chris42
I’m no expert in this, but I have unfortunately had some past dealings with the Environmental side of spraying Isocyanates (as well as H&S) - lucky me. Try as a start Under the old Environmental protection act 1990 you would have a part “B” process. However these processes now fall under The Pollution Prevention and Control Act 1999 and Pollution Prevention and Control regulations 2000. There is a guidance note PG 6/23(11) for Coating of metal and plastic processes. ( not the best reading matter I have ever come across !) to help, it kicks in if you will use more than 5 tonnes of organic solvent in a 12 month period. (that is solvent, not paint !!!- but includes what you use to clean the paint equipment etc) Talk to your Local Authority about this sooner rather than later, it may influence what you need to do.
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SW  
#9 Posted : 28 October 2011 18:32:28(UTC)
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SW
Thanks very much chris42 and Phillips20760 - much appreciated Certainly not that quantity and spraying only carried out "occasionally" - just have to determine what this means! Regards SW
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johnmurray  
#10 Posted : 29 October 2011 14:21:38(UTC)
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johnmurray
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg388.pdf Note that the rpe is active and not passive. Note that with iso you also need to protect against skin exposure.
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chris42  
#11 Posted : 29 October 2011 15:42:43(UTC)
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chris42
Just to make sure you pick up a particular point from johnmurray's link. Where the above guidance states “Spray painters should be biologically monitored at least yearly.” Which is then not in the built points below, it means urine testing. Local NHS charges for this were £80 per sample (2009) and we also used them for our other health surveillance. This last bit is just for info, I am not necessarily recommending the NHS, as we definitely had differences of opinion.
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chris.packham  
#12 Posted : 30 October 2011 07:29:31(UTC)
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chris.packham
The Health and Safety Laboratory in Buxton also provide an isocyanate monitoring service. They send out a kit for each person which is then returned to them for analysis and reportl Chris
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SW  
#13 Posted : 31 October 2011 12:36:28(UTC)
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SW
Hi Thank you to everyone that took the time out and reply - very much appreciated and excellent info received. Regards SW
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