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RayRapp  
#1 Posted : 28 October 2011 15:20:50(UTC)
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RayRapp

Whilst making a list of PPE standards (EN, CE, IOS, BS) it occurred to me that someone may have such a list or know a site I can download it from? Usual PPE, hard hats, eye and hearing protection, gloves, hi-vis, dust masks, etc.

I never knew the topic could be so complex and time consuming - cheers.
Phil W  
#2 Posted : 28 October 2011 15:33:51(UTC)
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Phil W

Haven't checked this out myself, but try the following link

http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...alops/fod/om/2009/03.htm

Phil W
teh_boy  
#3 Posted : 28 October 2011 15:41:57(UTC)
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teh_boy

http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/lacs/68-8.pdf

is that the same as above???? I also have a different one again on my desk from a fellow consultant - no idea where he found it but it's also an inspectors guidance note.
chris.packham  
#4 Posted : 28 October 2011 18:54:46(UTC)
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chris.packham

Ray

Just a word of caution with regard to the standards for gloves for protection against chemical hazards. The standard EN374 can be considered as flawed. Gloves are tested for permeation breakthrough at room temperature whereas, when worn, they can often be at skin temperature, i.e. instead of at the tested 23 deg C +/- 1 deg. they could be at 34 deg C. The permeation breakthrough can then be very different. There is no formula that you can apply to this, e.g. that for every x deg temperature increase there will be a y % loss in permeation breakthrough time. In one case increasing the temperature from 23 to 35 deg C caused the glove to show only 7.5% of the indicated permeation breakthrough time as tested according to the standard, in another there was no change at all.

Furthermore, the test only measures for permeation and does not take account of other factors, such as degradation, flexing, etc. Interestingly, at present the standard does not include a test for degradation. Thus any published data in accordance with the standard has to be treated with extreme caution. It may allow you to select the optimum glove for a task, but it will not tell you what performance you will get under actual conditions of use. (The standard does actually include a statement to this effect!)

Some years ago, in collaboration with Sunderland University, I ran a study on this. As an example of what we found, the same glove (nitrile) used as protection against xylene (mfrs indicated breakthrouth time 39 mins.) achieved in one task in excess of two hours and in another just 5 minutes!

Yes, collate the standards by all means, but don't consider that these will be of much help when selecting gloves for chemical protection.

Chris
RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 28 October 2011 19:15:08(UTC)
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RayRapp

Thanks for the replies, and yes the two sites are one and the same. However, they only refer to head protection. Been Googling for other PPE but it is very time consuming.

Chris, interesting observations re nitrile gloves. The reality is we don't stock them (yet) and I'm afraid to say, at this level the pros and cons of permeation is far removed from where I'm at - still trying to stop guys from working on pitched roofs without fall protection. In the world of SMEs the niceties of basic PPE still has a long way to go. Still, I appreciate your erudition and trouble to advise on such matters.

Ray
John J  
#6 Posted : 28 October 2011 19:30:46(UTC)
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John J

Ray,

look again!

The sites list all PPE standards. I use these as they are the same as the HSE inspectors used. They are pretty useful and its surprising how different PPE suppliers behave when you can quote the standard you need. Some real opportunities for price reduction once you understand what you need.

John
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 28 October 2011 19:43:57(UTC)
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RayRapp

Cheers John, silly me.
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