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anorak  
#1 Posted : 09 December 2011 11:15:02(UTC)
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anorak

We are a company of around 300 employees and I want to introduce health surveillance next year and want to use a professional to carry this out for us. We work mainly in construction and require the services of an Occupational health nurse to carry out and record the relevant tests on our employees. We are a national company but most of our work is in Scotland and our head office is in Glasgow. I would appreciate any advice on this and would be grateful if anyone could recommend a professional or company that could offer us this service. I need to acquire costings for this to put forward to my MD early next year. Thanks in advance.
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 09 December 2011 11:20:11(UTC)
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bob youel

Have a number of exploratory chats with local recruitment agencies that specialise in nurses. I used their services and made substantial savings compared to doctor lead companies even where doctors were not involved in any day to day areas
kdrum  
#3 Posted : 09 December 2011 11:25:24(UTC)
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kdrum

We use the services of our NHS Occupational Health Service, we did contract it out to a private provider last year but are now back with NHS. New staff are checked for HAVS, Audiometric, Muskoskeletal, Skin and Lung function to get a baseline and then regular checks depending on role.
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 09 December 2011 14:22:51(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

I'd be very wary of following Bob's advice (sorry Bob). There are nurses, and there are those who have knowledge and understanding of occupational health issues, protocols and standards. Anorak, I take it that all your Occ. Health requirements have been determined via appropriate Risk Assessment, you know the numbers, etc. and that you've already consulted the workforce & the management team about your proposals. Over and above that, if this is a "catch-up" for the company, then the management must be made aware of the potential for Occ.Health outcomes which essentially determine that some people are no longer fit to do the job they currently do (particularly where audiometry and vibration are issues). There's also the potential for resistance by employees on the one hand and the potential for a barrage of claims on the other. Beware of widely established "baseline" protocols used by many providers. These are often little more than a self-assessment questionnaire, providing little in the way of accurate information. If you're playing catch-up with Occ health, you'd want to move up these tiers of surveillance straight away. You also want to ensure appropriate level of assessment before confirmation of any contract for a new start, avoiding the potential pitfall of employing someone who can't do the job without further harm to themselves. Routinely, "baseline" information won't capture that. There may be trouble ahead. Good Luck. Note that the "NHS" provider referenced above is essentially just another commercial contract provider.
KevinMinton  
#5 Posted : 09 December 2011 14:49:28(UTC)
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KevinMinton

I suggest you have a look at SEQOHS - the OH provider Accreditation Scheme established by HMG initiative, managed by the Royal College of Physicians who manage the process on behalf of the Faculty of Occupational Medicine.
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 09 December 2011 15:26:52(UTC)
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bob youel

Ron H You are correct in drawing attention to being aware so in all cases pre qualify and get in specialists to help you in the process NB: All our nurses were Occ Health specialists and we saved a fortune in docs fees --- We still used specialist doctors but we only used them as necessary as we insisted in a nurse lead service I treat doctors in exactly the same was as I treat any other professional but they do not like it - In those days I had lots of dosh to spend so I could be choosy and demand a high standard and service
cliveg  
#7 Posted : 09 December 2011 19:41:40(UTC)
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cliveg

Also it may prove to be a good idea to be wary if you decide to outsource. If you are not careful you could find that the reason a Practitioner is so cheap is that your firm is still doing their admin and arranging the clinics for them. Another potential flaw is that a Physio simply bounces your case back to you with the helpful advice - 'They need a DSE assessment' (but without any useful information on what is actually wrong with the person or their specific needs....) Hopefully my personal experiences are not shared by many others. Good luck.
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 12 December 2011 13:48:46(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Ah yes - the old "you need to do a risk assessment" bounce back! You are not along, cliveq. Things become further confused when we appreciate that "risk assessment" often doesn't mean quite the same thing in health care circles..............
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