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Hi
I am looking for some guidance on the type of guarding needed for accessing files in a strongroom we have. The files are on shelving which we have a set of steps to access the files. The steps though do not have all round protection and this has caused someone to fall backwards off these steps.
my view is that there needs to be edge protection at a reasonable height all the way round to stop this happening. I am coming across some opposition to this though.
any input would be gratefully received!
Many Thanks
Clegg
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What height do you have to access?
How Regularly?
How long is the individual w@h?
What foot wear was the IP wearing?
Is it Risk Assessed?
In order to answer your question more info is needed
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The steps are used several times a day and the employee is accessing heights of aproximately8 feet from the ground. a risk assessment has apparently been done some time ago.
the individual goes up picks a file and comes down, quite short duration byt possibly several times a day. Shoes are normal office wear work shoes with no specific requirements highlighted.
Hope this gives you more info?
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In our file registry we have mobile steps with a handrail
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Does that go all around to stop falling backwards?
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Why would you want to have all round protection for such steps? If the steps are properly designed, with all four feet level on the floor, brakes applied (if mobile steps), sensible treads (not rungs, but flat treads) then surely this would be sufficient? A hand rail would be good, but hoops providing all round protection are overkill IMO.
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I've certainly never seen a set of steps with all around protection. In fact I'm struggling to see how you would gain access to the top if its protected all around?
I suppose you could have a gated top platform but for the time taken and process of opening and closing the gate it would increase the risk not diminish it.
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quote=clegg1966]The steps are used several times a day and the employee is accessing heights of aproximately8 feet from the ground. a risk assessment has apparently been done some time ago.
the individual goes up picks a file and comes down, quite short duration but possibly several times a day. Shoes are normal office wear work shoes with no specific requirements highlighted.
Hope this gives you more info?
So you have in the past found the existing steps acceptable for use, if so then you need to look how people are using the steps and if they are being used as they are intended, check footwear, is there a requirement for use of handrails (are their hands full), awareness and training?
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Some podium steps have a chain or gate to provide all-round protection but that does seem overkill and unlikely practive when retreiving and replacing files.
This can often be an 'individual' issue though. What is relatively straightforward for a 6 footer can be a significant issue for someone only 5 feet tall.
Presumably there is little scope to examine document retention policy, reduce the volume and eliminate this high storage.
Problems may also be down to inappropriate positioning of the steps. If there is a standing platform, then side-on access would be preferable, allowing a rail behind (assuming podium steps are used) when reaching up.
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We had the same issue a couple of years back.
The real issue for us was that the person in question had to use both hands to remove the files and then carry them back down the steps.
We solved this by getting steps with a hand rail and re-arranging the store room. Individuals could remove items from the shelves when on the steps and place them on a lower level shelf where they could be reached from ground level once they had come off the steps.
Of course won't be as easy in all areas.
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