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Kralph  
#1 Posted : 11 January 2012 10:10:20(UTC)
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Kralph

We are a small(ish) building firm with a construction project coming up which is due to take approximately 60 working days to complete in total. We will be undertaking the majority of the work ourselves, with perhaps 2 other small businesses sub-contracted to us for short periods of time. The customer (client) has awarded the job to us to construct a new-build property will be lived in by themselves, and will serve as their home. The property will not be used for business purposes. Although CDM regs & the ACOP states that a project is notifiable for projects over 30 days etc., it also states that a project is not notifiable for a domestic client. Can someone please confirm to me that this project does not need to be submitted to the HSE? The necessary health & safety procedures, records, and documentation will be created and provided as per usual, but clarification on the notification issue would settle my mind on that issue.
Kralph  
#2 Posted : 11 January 2012 10:37:49(UTC)
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Kralph

"If you are having construction work done on your own home, or on the home of a family member, as a domestic client you do not have to notify the work to HSE and you will not have duties under CDM 2007 - although those doing the work on your behalf (such as designers or contractors) will."
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 11 January 2012 13:09:04(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Paragraph 31 of the CDM ACoP (L144) refers: 31 'Domestic clients have no client duties under CDM2007, which means that there is no legal requirement for appointment of a CDM co-ordinator or principal contractor when such projects reach the notification threshold. Similarly, there is no need to notify HSE where projects for domestic clients reach the notification threshold. However, designers and contractors still have their normal duties as set out in Parts 2 and 4 of the Regulations, and domestic clients will have duties under Part 4 of the Regulations if they control the way in which construction work is carried out.'
TonyMurphy  
#4 Posted : 11 January 2012 14:45:55(UTC)
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TonyMurphy

So, forgive me for asking but: A client of mine has a pub. He gets permission to renovate and change use into three flats. Domestic Client or not?
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 11 January 2012 15:29:59(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

That would make him a developer, not a domestic Client.
TonyMurphy  
#6 Posted : 11 January 2012 15:38:22(UTC)
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TonyMurphy

Can you elaborate please? Thankyou
DaveDowan  
#7 Posted : 11 January 2012 15:44:08(UTC)
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DaveDowan

Hi This link will lead to the answers to most of your questions http://www.hse.gov.uk/co...ion/cdm/faq/domestic.htm Regards Dave
TonyMurphy  
#8 Posted : 11 January 2012 15:52:25(UTC)
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TonyMurphy

"landlords and other businesses may own domestic property but they are not domestic clients." Ah I understand now.
Kralph  
#9 Posted : 11 January 2012 17:00:18(UTC)
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Kralph

ron hunter wrote:
Paragraph 31 of the CDM ACoP (L144) refers: 31 'Domestic clients have no client duties under CDM2007, which means that there is no legal requirement for appointment of a CDM co-ordinator or principal contractor when such projects reach the notification threshold. Similarly, there is no need to notify HSE where projects for domestic clients reach the notification threshold. However, designers and contractors still have their normal duties as set out in Parts 2 and 4 of the Regulations, and domestic clients will have duties under Part 4 of the Regulations if they control the way in which construction work is carried out.'
Thanks for the response. I have just been informed that it's actually a business wanting a new office extension building, so that answers the question altogether. Bit of a mix up- next time i will wait for the completed CDM questionnaire and not take the managers word for it! Cheers.
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