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There seems to be some confusing information concerning first aiders and HSE approval.
If for example I was to become a qualified FAW instructor and teach company first aiders in house. Do i then need to have their training certified by a HSE approved provider?
Is there any training in regards to Forklift (crush injuries etc)
Can anyone suggest a good company to send an IP on a FAW instructors course?
At the moment I have qoutes between £375 and £840 and in some cases an ongoing cost for course certificates rangeing from £15 to £45 per certificate.
Other company's will charge £175 per year for the first couple of years as long as you buy equipment from them.
What's going on and has anyone got any sensible advise?
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Hi
If this is confusing - PM and i'll drop you my contact details...
I did mine with NUCO and also got PTLLS out of it as well - well I needed PTLLS and got FAWI as a bonus is a better explanation.
Currently to teach FAW you (or the provider) need to be approved by the HSE. This can be costly and difficult and so some companies offer to appoint you under their wing for a %of the cost. - As I think you have already gathered.
Nuco offer this to persons who have done their course and I think http://www.firstaidcafe.co.uk/ offer similar (note these are just people I have experience with - other exist!!!)
I am lucky enough to work for an approved training centre so haven't done any further research, but I hope that helps a bit?
I think my course was towards the top of your quotes but I got a teaching qualification as well!
You will also need an approved examiner for FAW to 'pass' your delegates - again companies tend to offer this as a chargeable service.
How many do you have to train? To be worth it it has to be quite a few?
Oh and all FAW training should include crush injuries as part of the syllabus... doesn't matter what you were crushed by - the principles are the same
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teh boy,
Thank you I will have a look at the firms you have suggested.
If you already have PTTLS should you expect the course to be less pricey?
Once qualified as a FAW instructor are you saying that you still need to attend an examiners course to qualify other first aiders?
At the moment our FA at work arrangements are under review and to be honest I would rather have Too many than not enough. We have over 16 locations and most current First Aiders are now reaching their run out dates.
Hence conducting in house.
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evo wrote:teh boy,
If you already have PTTLS should you expect the course to be less pricey?
** Nope - but it was cheaper to do both together as FAWI is a 4 day course - PTLLS is a 5 day course - both together = 5 days... (I think, so it made sense)
Once qualified as a FAW instructor are you saying that you still need to attend an examiners course to qualify other first aiders?
**Nope - but you need two people trained to FAWI to pass anyone off. So I can train but I need someone else to examine. (examiners can be hired) also EFAW can be signed off by just one person if this is a hgih enough course, and I think is cheaper to certificate (not sure, I'd have to check)
At the moment our FA at work arrangements are under review and to be honest I would rather have Too many than not enough. We have over 16 locations and most current First Aiders are now reaching their run out dates.
**It's worth doing a CBA - most FAW courses tend to be run close to the wire, the cost of training an examiner, paying for books, paying for certification and paying for lots and lots of your time (oh and the examiner for two hours) might cost loads more than a private course.
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It is sometimes open courses are as cheap as chips..however they will only cover the FAW syllabus...what I am picking up form your note is that you have other risks that may need covering?
Crush injuries for one...you will have to do that 'in house' it may well be discussed on the course if students bring it up, but you have to be confident on the experience of the instructor. I always look for remote medic/paramedic or ECP.
You need to go to your risk assessment and see if you are asking for anything over and above the normal FAW course and go from there..
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