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Does anyone have any idea what the legal time scale for Health and safety meetings with union/employee reps is?. We try to have these meetings every 1-2 months, is it possible to have them less frequently then this or is this time scale correct?.
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ARock wrote:Does anyone have any idea what the legal time scale for Health and safety meetings with union/employee reps is?. We try to have these meetings every 1-2 months, is it possible to have them less frequently then this or is this time scale correct?.
Look at L146 which may help.
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There is no legislation that states the frequency of safety committee meetings. There is however guidance provided in the Safety Representatives and Safety Committees Regulations 1977 (as amended). This is taken directly from L146 – Consultation ACOP
“90 Health and safety committees should meet as often as necessary. The frequency of meetings will depend on the volume of business, which in turn is likely to depend on local conditions, the size of the workplace, numbers employed, the kind of work carried out and the degree of inherent risk. Sufficient time should be allowed during each meeting to ensure full discussion of all business.
91 Meetings should not be cancelled or postponed except in very exceptional circumstances. Where postponement is absolutely necessary, an agreed date for the next meeting should be made and announced as soon as possible.
92 The dates of the meetings should be arranged well in advance as far as possible, even to the extent of planning a programme six months or a year ahead. In these circumstances all members of the committee should be sent a personal copy of the programme giving the dates of the meetings. Notices of the dates of meetings should also be published where all employees can see them. A copy of the agenda and any accompanying papers should be sent to all committee members at least one week before each meeting.”
Hope this helps
Phil W
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Phil W wrote:There is no legislation that states the frequency of safety committee meetings.
But there is this:
Section 9 (2) c wrote:the committee shall be established not later than three months after the request for it.
So you can deduce that 3 month intervals is minimum if requested by Reps.
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Ill take the 3 months as a rule of thumb but will stick to 2 months.That is great thanks for the information.
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You really should be having these safety committee meetings monthly as part of your policy review etc, and if you see the union safety reps as the enemy you really are in trouble. Use the time and safety reps to help do your departmental/site inspections, risk assessments, accident investigations and roll out safety training. These guys are on site doing the job day in day out and are often better trained than your supervisors. Get them involved and you get them onside doing a lot of the ground work for both you and mid management downwards. This will all add to a more positive safety culture.
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Section 9 (2) c wrote:the committee shall be established not later than three months after the request for it.
So you can deduce that 3 month intervals is minimum if requested by Reps.
No. That is the time frame for establishing the committee not the frequency of meetings.
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G W Bell... Thanks for that observation. I couldn't agree more with every word you said there. I am in fact the Union Health and safety Rep anyway. My question is worded like that because I just wish to know the maximum time period that the management are allowed to leave these meetings. As the management has changed and there has not been a committee meeting since the new manager took over more than 2 months ago.
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Betta Spenden wrote:
No. That is the time frame for establishing the committee not the frequency of meetings.
Of course it is, but it seems a good place to start when initiating consultations with the recognised TUs. At least that was a very common approach back in the late 70s when most large organisations were coming to terms with these regs. Certainly that was the case in the oganisations I was involved with at that time. And, as the HSE guidance says, "Union appointed safety representatives can carry out inspections every three months. It is good practice to plan these together in advance. You may want to arrange committee meetings around the same time as these inspections, so you take up matters promptly". Of course this should not be set in stone but varied (in consultation with the TUs) according to need.
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When I was working in Higher Education the pattern across the sector seemed to be to have the main Safety Committee meetings held either 6 monthly or termly.
This was timed so that reports and any policy changes could be submitted to Council.
The logistics would have made more frequent meetings impossible as other sub committees, such as those covering Radiation, Biological and Estates safety also had to prepare reports.
The frequency of these meetings were determined by each sub committee but they were charged to hold meetings before the main committee meetings
I might add that there were TU reps on all committees.
So to use an old expression “its horses for courses” as there is nothing set down in legislation.
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Our sites hold safety committee meetings every 6 months. This seems to work well, however it's worth pointing out that our sites work in a non-unionised environment.
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I take it you are talking about union/employee reps meetings with the management team?
When I was HSE union rep we met monthly - but that was with 2000 employees - and an older style company / premises where a good deal of change was required to meet the "new" legislation at the time - the "6 pack" being a particular busy time. We also had the "Chapel" commitee to deal with.
I would see a monthly meeting as no great problem. It sends out a message of good communication between teams but if there is no issues and there is an open door / pro active relationship then 2 monthly would suit.
As an offshore industry safety advisor, I would be looking to meet with the SI 971 reps at least monthly. And if I were offshore with them - weekly.
So really horses for courses - building relationships and trust. Hope this helps?
David
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