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9Yally  
#1 Posted : 04 March 2012 17:01:26(UTC)
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9Yally


Following on from a thread I made a while ago about finding work abroad I have come to the conclusion that finding work in the Middle East isn't easy. There may be many of factors influencing this.

I am now looking into other possibilitys such as Australia/Canada

I will be honest and admit I have no idea how to find work there, if they recognise our qualifications, the level they are at in regards to HS, wages etc.

Has anyone taken the plunge and gone to either countries ?

Any information you may have which will be useful ?

Any other counties worth taking a look at ?

Thank you and I look forward to hearing your responses
Betta Spenden  
#2 Posted : 04 March 2012 19:57:31(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

They all have their own versions of IOSH or the BSC. Try google for more info and ask them straight up.
BJC  
#3 Posted : 05 March 2012 10:55:16(UTC)
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Saw a nice job in Guernsey hsejobs.proboards.com and look at SHP.
Jon-P  
#4 Posted : 06 March 2012 15:20:33(UTC)
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Jon-P

I have recently been looking into the mining/heavy industry sector out in Australia as it seems to be booming, pay seems very good as well. From what I can work out the SIA (Safety Institute of Australia Ltd) seems to be the equivalent of IOSH and have a similar membership scale, but NEBOSH Dip isn’t currently recognised at the moment. Not sure what qualification you have, but take a look at what I found on the SIA website below regarding NEBOSH Dip:-

Q. I have applied to immigrate to Australia but in completing my application I find that Australia does not recognise my NEBOSH diploma. Could you advise why this is and my options to progress my application?
A. Australian assessments for skilled migration are based on the Australian Standard Classification of Occupations (ASCO) which lists a degree plus 5 years relevant experience as the requirement for an ‘OHS officer'. This classification system is currently under review and the Safety Institute of Australia is working to ensure that the future occupational description for an ‘OHS practitioner' is more appropriate and relevant. Unfortunately, in the interim, the status quo applies.

I would suggest that you look at some job descriptions as the majority are asking for specific diplomas/certificates in training recognised on the Australian education frame work.

I would be interested to hear if you find any more information out about Oz or Canada.
Jon
Owen24  
#5 Posted : 06 March 2012 16:22:40(UTC)
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Owen24

This is the website for the Board of Canadian Registered safety professionals http://www.bcrsp.ca/

This is their Version of IOSH and after a few email exchanges the jist of it is, To become a member you either have to Sit 2 interviews and a 2 hour multiple choice exam if you have not attained a CMIOSH,

If you have then all you have to do is sit the exam which i believe are held 2 or 3 times a year.

If you need any more information, contact them directly, they have been very helpful with me

Hope this Helps

Owen
9Yally  
#6 Posted : 06 March 2012 17:00:54(UTC)
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9Yally


Thanks for your replies Jon and Owain.

For sure if I find out any further information I will drop you a PM.

From your posts I would be eligible to work in Oz and Canada doesn't seem to bad. The only bad thing could be travelling out there and failing!

Have you been looking at any specific job websites ?

Whats the current HS job market like out there ?

Thanks
Owen24  
#7 Posted : 07 March 2012 00:04:22(UTC)
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Owen24

Once you sign up to sit their test, you pay a fee which will include your exam and study aids, I have asked myself the same question, but if its something you seriously want to do then its worth the Risk. I've just started my Open Assessment for CMIOSH today so all being well I would like to sit the exam in October.

On their website there is a tab for careers in Canada which takes you to a number of different websites. I've been mainly looking in Ontario.

Their Market is as good as anyone else's to be fair and they have a great wage structure.
Nikki-Napo  
#8 Posted : 07 March 2012 08:58:47(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Take a look at the various safety bodies' organisations on linkedin. There are loads of them. I'd suggest joining one that's pretty active, and start a discussion. You never know, that in itself could lead to a job offer.
Murphy18713  
#9 Posted : 07 March 2012 11:18:41(UTC)
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Murphy18713

Hi,
I'm off to Oz in July and gained our temp. visa through my experience as an OHS practitioner in the UK as the profession is on the SOL. At the time of my application, I had the NGC, plus my degree (not OHS related) which I had assessed via VETASSESS, and work experience. I think it was at least two years in a relevant field (had to be leading up to the application) and I had to provide evidence. Since applying I have gained the Diploma. I don't have a job to go to, but as I'm being made redundant this month, I won't have one in the UK neither!! I have a contact in Adelaide who is just branching into OHS and recently sat the Cert iv. He said he did the course over two weeks so I imagine this may be the equivalent of the NGC level (not sure though). I told him my experience and he thinks I'll have no problems finding work, in his words 'they're screaming out for H&S professionals!!' We are planning to head to Brisbane. The mining industry is booming in Queensland and WA. I saw a previous thread from someone based in WA who advised to gain knowledge of the Oz H&S legislation, he also said he had employed people with NEBOSH quals.
Sorry this msg is a bit longwinded but feel free to msg me if you want any further info.
Cheers
LZ  
#10 Posted : 20 March 2012 09:54:40(UTC)
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LZ

Colleagues

Getting work abroad is difficult for many reasons.
Offshore: unless you have done this before and have all your updated survival tickets and know someone in the business then forget it. Its almost a closed shop.

Saudi Arabia: The criteria is now a degree and must be under the age of 60 to get a visa. They took a decision in 2009 to reduce the amount of expats so that Saudis can have a chance of a job?

Abu Dhabi, is employing at the moment but are taking advantage of our huge recession. I got an offer of a job there 6 weeks ago paying...£3000 a month? Yes its tax free but there in no rotation, holidays until you have been there one full year then you get 10 days unpaid leave. Also you have to pay your own air fares as they do not include that. If anyone wants to know the company pm me so that you can avoid them!


Syria is in turmoil and Libya is only just settling down but is still a dangerous place. The whole of the Middle East has currently fell out with the expat thanks to our American friends going on the rampage killing innocent people and burning Korans.

Australia has lots of work but again they are selective no more ten pound pommy! Unless you have over £60k disposable income to deposit then you will not get in. I know several who have made it and come back because of the hostility from the Aussies!

Africa: need I say more, kidnapping and murder is ripe and expats are firmly on the list because they know two things..If they capture you they can get large sums from your employer for your safe return, or if not they sell you down the line to Al-Qaeda either way your doomed. The American and British may come to your rescue but again you could be killed.


A grim picture. Well yes. Deciding to work abroad is good and can have its rewards but be realistic. There are dangers so do not be tempted to rush to the first one that offers you a contract. Do not accept any position unless you have had a telephone interview and a written contract to sign. So if you get an email giving you an offer and you have had no other previous contact then treat it with caution or contempt! These people will ask you to pay up front for you visa, this is a scam! Do not resign from your job even if you have a contract until plane tickets arrive. Always keep in constant contact with your new employer because that is how you will know they are genuine.

I am off to Libya next month but I know the company and have worked for them before. There is work out around various parts of the world but please be careful it is a mine field.



Good luck
Darren platts  
#11 Posted : 20 March 2012 11:32:06(UTC)
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Darren platts



Abu dhabi is quite the contrary. There are many positions over here available you just have to know where to look. With respect to the holidays, after 1 year by article 75 of labour law the holidays are 30 days standard. Depending on what position you were offered (I gather not HSE Manager by the salary) depends on the benefits. i.e HSE Manager IRO 35000AED upto 60000 AED Oil & Gas. There are also tangible benefits on offer such as housing allowance, schooling, Car allowance etc and this is all open for negotiation. I myself have worked in Abu Dhabi for 2 years now and recieve offers on a regular basis showing that the market here is bouyant. Many projects starting and offering IRO 40,000 AED.

Dont be put off by the Middle East but do ensure you do your research
MB1  
#12 Posted : 21 March 2012 08:57:54(UTC)
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MB1

Just been accepted for a position in Qatar.

Likely a expanding economy with the world cup secured there so a lot of construction related interest I would expect.

Stumbled over by word of mouth and now in the middle of the administration process which can be at a slow pace.
nzross  
#13 Posted : 01 April 2012 07:01:43(UTC)
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nzross

Hi.I live in New Zealand with my family. Ater five years here we have been accepted as citzens.
In reply to careers abroad, here in New Zealand Seeknz will give you access to available jobs in health & safety. Nebosh is becoming recognised over here. Impac are a registered provider for courses. Employers are prepared to sponsor health & safety professionals as they are in demand. For more information try the recruiting agency Eden. It is run by a lady formerly from the UK. The DOL have recently sent their employees on courses to attain Nebosh IGC. Other governmental bodies are also training people with this certificate. The NZISM are also affiliated with IOSH. If I can offer any other advice to anybody thinking of emigrating to NZ (It really is a beautiful country) please feel free to get in touch.
Cheers
NZRoss
Markhbsg  
#14 Posted : 02 April 2012 10:21:45(UTC)
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Markhbsg

I have this morning found out that a position with a global construction firm that I had been interviewed twice for, agreed relocation package (sponsored) and salary, and offered the postion (was due to be going in July) in Sydney is no longer there!!!!!

Me and my Wife had told friends and family and was all set to go.

Obviously we are devastated, but are keen to find another opportunity as we had set our hearts on going and had made the decision.

I hold the NEBOSH diploma and environmental diploma and am due to complete the BSc Hons in Occupational Health and Safety Management in June (Forcasted 2:1/2:2). My background is construction, but I have also worked within the manaufacturing industry.
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