IMHO then yes this is possible: If H&S requirements are taken into account at the design stage then surely this can assist in acheiving a much better result than simply seeing H&S as something you have to make fit at a later stage (or be something that then requires repeated subsequent desing changes). Good old fashioned communication between the designer, end user and all others involved is key in ensuring that every effort necessary in the designing out risk is taken. If we take the building of a machine for an example then PUWER states that “Every employer shall ensure that work equipment is so constructed or adapted as to be suitable for the purpose for which it is used or provided”. Then if we also apply matters such as the Machinery Directive then we will have essential health and safety requirements that also need to be met. Not an expert in construction but I would of thought that the same principal would apply.

It definitely applies to construction and the CDM definition/requirements of 'designer' are well spelled out. For example I've just had a colleague telling me in one of his jobs a lack of attention (by everyone) failed to notice that the design build of a sloping roof did not allow for access/structure to install skylights requiring access from under AND above the roof. Because this hasn't been planned in, there is now a quick fix being sought - cherry picker inside (though it is restricted by a wall they just built.....) and an Easi-Dec unit assembled on top, not figgered out how to raise the skylights into position yet....... These person access fixes may do the job but if the designer had thought about these way down the line safer systems might have been developed into the construction. The raising of the window units, well.... Lack of design/planning leads to unnecessary hazards and increased risk.

I think Yes, Its all very well and good designing lovely buildings, but I dont think some' of the designers take into account the 'how' it is going to be achieved, because it is no longer their issue once a Client takes over the job. I think they should be more involved in the how section of the job, or even spend time on a construction site to see the issues we have to deal with, regarding restrictions eg. Network Rail or London Underground tracks.

Yes, and not involving end-users and poor consideration of human factors are often found to be key factors in major incidents. Further reading at: http://www.hse.gov.uk/hu...actors/topics/design.htm

Never implied that totally eliminating the chance of accidents or ill health would or could be the end result. Simply stated that its better to consider H&S at the design stage (consultation with end users and other etc).

Need a bit more explanation before I can reply. A designer of what exactly? Sort of depends if it is industry specific, task specific or even a highstreet item used in industry. Ona a slight aside you might be surprised about what little control there is in regard to kit in the medical world.

Take your pick plant, equipment or buildings do you have a story to tell about bad design and how it could have been done better.