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OVERWORKED&UNDERPAID  
#1 Posted : 16 April 2012 21:01:21(UTC)
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All, Its been a long time since i place a post but i could do with some advice. It is likely that i may be forced to leave one of my valued SHE managers go to join another dept as a civils SHE advisor. Not a bad thing for the facilities team but it means a blow to my SHE team. Consequently with an external recruitment freeze in place i would be allowed to recruit an enthusiastic replacment internally. My questions is how to pick the right person i.e. enthusiasm over experience!!!!! and then how best to development the new person to ensure that they develop at the right speed concentrating on the right SHE work and how much mentoring should i be expected to provide? So over to you my learned friends - what advice can you give me? Regards, Annoyed in waiting.......
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 17 April 2012 08:07:19(UTC)
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RayRapp

Welcome back Overworked, Not exactly inundated with suggestions so far, probably because it is an impossible question. Only you can decide whether you want experience over enthusiasm and consequently how much time you are willing to devote to mentoring. If it is of any help, every role I have ever undertaken has required a degree of learning, very few come to the table with everything - that does not mean they are not capable.
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 17 April 2012 08:21:23(UTC)
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bob youel

Get yourself on a recruitment and selection course as the first point; remembering that recruitment actions should be transparent as possible as people who do not get the job may put a grievance in about the recruitment process
KieranD  
#4 Posted : 17 April 2012 10:43:56(UTC)
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KieranD

Overworked You refer to 'the right person i.e. enthusiasm over experience'..... Your question is far from 'impossible' as literally thousands of research papers have been publisehd addressing the issue over the past 75 years - WWII marked the breakthrough in systematic evaluation of reliable, valid and cost-effective methods of selection. You can learn a lot from careful study of the evidence-based approach explained in 'Personnel Selection. Adding value through people' M Cook, Wiley-Blackwell 5th edition. 2009. In so far as you have difficulty applying what Cook explains, you can get up to speed relatively quickly investing half the fee of a good course in coaching to apply Cook's guidance from a registered occupational psychologis who is also coaching psychologist on the Register of Coaching Psychologists opened by the British Psychological Society this month and if you wish, perhaps a chartered safety and health practitioner too.
Tigers  
#5 Posted : 17 April 2012 10:59:28(UTC)
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Tigers

Funny I was just reading this article on the BSC website and thought it may be appropriate toy your situation.16/04/2012 Employers are now placing personal attributes above the importance of a degree among potential job candidates, according to research carried out among 2000 business decision-makers by Aldi. That is not to say that the employers questioned disregard qualifications but rather that a degree is taken as a given and applicants are increasingly judged on key personality traits. Aldi Head of Graduate Recruitment Richard Holloway said: "Strong personalities, work experience, hobbies and leading teams at university are key strengths. Although we look for candidates who can bring something else to the workplace, there still needs to be an emphasis on whether they can do the job well." The company, which is looking to recruit more than 100 graduates (with at least a 2.1 degree) this year is keen to see what else candidates can offer aside from education to justify a £40,000 starting salary. Confidence was the number one attribute looked for in new staff by employers (who have clearly never watched The Apprentice), just ahead of a positive attitude and experience. According to the study Aldi commissioned, just 20% of employers thought that a degree made a potential candidate stand out — with most saying that it is less impressive to them now than what it would have been 10 years ago. In a finding that has worrying implications for diversity, more than half of potential employers said they look for someone that "reminds them of themselves" with men more likely to look to take on the role of mentor to new employees. "Women, meanwhile, were less likely to hire anyone that had better qualifications than they did or greater experience because they worried they might eventually want their job," the study found. Men are more likely to hire someone good-looking than women, while women place more emphasis on hiring someone who is well-spoken. More than a quarter of respondents said they judged potential staff on whether they were polite to reception, security and cleaning staff while a similar percentage expected them to be respectful in the interview process. HR professionals will wince at the comment in the report that "more than half say their hiring decisions are based on instincts more than anything else" and can it really be true that some interviewers are asking young graduates in 2012 to name their favourite Spice Girl? From Paul Clarke, business writer for Croner Last updated on 16/04/2012
KieranD  
#6 Posted : 18 April 2012 08:20:45(UTC)
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KieranD

I've just checked details of www.hexaco.org, a website about a very well-reseached measure of personality known as 'HEXACO'. This measure can be used to gather reliable, valid data in a legally fair way to assess any candidates against the stated condition of 'enthusiasm' Specifications for a short-listed candidate can be stated int terms of each of the six traits being considered as follows. Honesty/humilty (high), Emotionality (moderate), Extraversion (high), Agreeableness (High), Conscientiousness (high), Openness to experience (moderate). Competent use of this measure safeguards against any allegations of unfair discrimination, always a risk in selection for an attractive appointment. Full details of relevant research are presented on the website; many of the articles listed can be downloaded on the internet by a competent user. While the authors state on the website that HEXACO can be used free of charge for research purposes, they authorise those well qualified in using psychometrics e.g. BPS PTC European Test User Certificate Level 2 (formerly 'Level B, Full) to use them for commercial purposes at an extremely competitive price. Chartered occupational psychologist, Professor Adrian Furnham, of University College London, fomer Chairman of the International Society for Study of Individual Differences, complemented HEXACO in his talk at the 2011 conference on Coaching Psychology in London last December, observing that the 'H' factor, honesty, is the one that employees most appreciate in managers. Neither Furnham nor I have any commercial interest in HEXACO; we simply advocate reliable, valid assessment of people at work.
Heather Collins  
#7 Posted : 18 April 2012 11:29:05(UTC)
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Heather Collins

Overworked. Think first about what aspects of the job you want this person to do. Are they going to be doing training for example? This gives you a job spec of sorts and then (like most companies!) you will probably be expected to advertise internally rather than just select. See if any candidates are people who have been (voluntarily) involved in H&S before such as on safety committees or as area reps or whatever your company has. Don't be pushed into accepting TU reps though - the good ones are great but there are still some with the old-fashioned "management-bashing" mentality. Maybe get each to do a short presentation for you on a subject of their choice? That will show you who has the confidence to stand up and deliver training (or not). Then it's really down to asking the right interview questions - get HR involved obviously. Don't get stuck with someone who has been moved sideways because a misguided manager thinks H&S is an easy option... As for mentoring, I did this many times in a previous life as a H&S Manager. It is the most rewarding and satisfying thing you can do if you both work at it. Even when people from your team subsequently move on, there is huge satisfaction from knowing that you helped them do that. Enjoy it, don't see it as a burden!
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