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Always wanted to start one of these....
I'm interested in people's opinions about colleagues/competitors having twitter accounts.
I know you don't have to follow them, but I've noticed that even if you don't, information from them seems to invade your life anyway - often with inane detail that no-one was really interested in.
If so, why are people doing it - is it a bandwagon, is it fashionable or does it really have merit?
Looking forward to comments that will make me smile on yet another grey day!
Lucy
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Lucy,
Thankfully I have no understanding or interest in twitter.
There ends my contribution!
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I had a twitter account a few years ago when I was developing a part time business.
To be honest, I never really 'got' it. It did work to a limited extent, but I suppose at the time Twitter was in it's relative infancy. Now, it can apparently be a good marketing tool if used correctly.
That said, I haven't used my account for around 2 years now - I simply got bored with it. However, I still get emails on an almost daily basis stating that completely random people are now 'following me'. Probably to build up their quota...
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Can't say I have ever seen a twitter page. And I have no intention of looking at one.
From what I have heard its the most inane piece of software on the planet.
No doubt some people will disagree
Andy
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PS.
I don't do those facespace or mybook things either
Andy
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I'm with motor head.
I've got plenty of other things to waste my time with.
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I use it and find it's a useful tool if you set it up properly. My Twitter account is for business only so I don't follow people who tweet about what they had for breakfast and what they bought on EBay today!
You can choose who to follow and then you can choose which of those people's tweets come direct to your mobile if you want to. I have stopped having quite a few people's tweets sent to my phone because they were tweeting every 5 minutes about inane rubbish or retweeting other people's stuff all the time.
For me it's useful as I follow a number of clients, training agencies and colleagues who I have either worked for or may work for. It's useful to me to get a tweet from a training company saying they've just got a new contract and will be looking for freelance trainers. Tells me it's time to e-mail them and see if I can help!
However it's definitely a case of horses for courses and it's not likely to be useful to everyone. If I wasn't self-employed and constantly on the look out for the next contract then I don't expect I would have bothered either.
P.S I do Facebook too...
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I signed up for Twitter because I spend three hours a day on SouthWest Trains, and they claimed following them on Twit was the best way to stay up to date with any travel problems. I'm about to stop following them as while they Twit plenty of information, it's always wrong.
I follow my employers' Press Office Twit feed, as they sit near me in the office and the Twit feed is the only evidence I have that any of them ever do any work.
And I follow a friend of mine who's a professional muso as it's the best way to find out where I can see him in a gig this weekend.
I'm certainly not going to subscribe to numerous junk mail feeds, or start following famous people just because somebody thinks it's the thing to do. I guess Twit can be useful / interesting, as long as you're careful whose feeds you sign up to.
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I have facebook, twitter, myspace, linked in, youtube account. The only one I use for my professional H&S stuff is Linked-in - although I do plan to work on a youtube account for H&S podcasts. I have to admit, I don't get it with twitter. i have had it for a couple of years now and view it as an app on my phone. I follow about 10 famous people that I admire. For something that is supposed to be brief - a micro blog in 140 characters or whatever it is - it seems to achieve the opposite. It just seems to be an endless stream of out-of-context bitty ramblings and links to other pages that I have not got time to look at.
I do wonder if Twitter is simply about bragging about how many followers you have - whereas the real question should be 'are people really reading the posts? - i doubt it.
My Suggestions:
Twitter - personally would not bother
Linked-in - was rather dead and stuffy for a while but seems to be flourishing more lately. Great for making sure you have an online presence - and good for setting up online special intersest groups
Facebook - more a social friends/family thing.
MySpace - still going but dead!
Tumbler - this is for blogging and putting all sorts of things on line. My 16 year old son loves it but probably not popular enough with 'old people' yet to be of use in a H&S context
Coming back to twitter; re followers, I don't have any. I am a Health and Safety Manager so therefore have no friends!
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I would go for a "Get out of my face page "if their was one!
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Those Who Inanely Talk Totally Excluding Reason??
On the other hand there were those who predicted that the telephone would lead to the fall of society :-)
I don't subscribe to the view that you need to know everything immediately. Indeed sometimes it is best not to know at all. However if you feel the need then twitter and other forms of social media are a really useful tool to stay engaged,
p48
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Must be an age thing. I don't see the point in these social media sites.
Then again, maybe I've just got no pals. I do appreciate that these sites can be a minefield for the unwary, that they have a potential sinister side, and that many employers can, if they so wish, routinely scan such sites to see what employees get up to!
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pete48's opening phrase above seems very apt. Also, the name 'Twitter' speaks for itself. Though I've never actually seen 'Twitter', from what I've read and heard about it from various sources, it's for twits who have nothing better to do than, well, twitter or chatter about inconsequential matters. Also, I get the same impressions about 'Facebook'.
Those of you who have received the latest SHP magazine will have seen the front cover comment that "Google, Facebook, Twitter, iEverything - this is the language young people understand, so practitioners must be fluent in it if they are to get through to the emerging generation." Is this really true? Also, isn't 'Google' just the name of an internet search facility rather than a language? Furthermore, isn't there a need for all users of the internet to think and assess what they see on the internet. It's frightening to consider how many people appear to blindly accept what they see as being true or accurate. The same applies to what's imparted by TV programmes, films, books and newspapers.
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Spot on Graeme. It has been often remarked in learned circles that as our communications systems and access to information grows, so it seems our ability to analyse and assess the veracity of that information is fast diminishing.
Also, just as our access to quality information is improving exponentially, the more we seem to obsess about trivia.
The decline and fall of Western Civilisation.......................
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Bunch of grumpy old men! ;-) (bah humbug, things were better in our day, etc, etc)
Like any resource, Twitter is as useful as you want it to be. Same with Facebook and yes Ron is right that it has a sinister side, but only for the foolish and unwary.
Graham - if you think Google is just a search engine then you haven't looked recently. Android is Google. GMail is Google. Googledocs for file sharing anyone?
I'm not sure why there seems to be an assumption here that anyone who uses social media is some sort of wannabe media junkie incapable of rational independent thought. It's just another business tool for many of us. Try it, you might like it!
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Social networking for me starts and ends face-to-face.........................Twitter my a***
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ctd167 wrote:Social networking for me starts and ends face-to-face.........................Twitter my a***
Or on the end of the phone if they live too far away to visit.
You aren't Jim Royle, are you??
Andy
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Heather,
Thanks, but I'd rather have an evening out with Mr Cameron himself!
I heard David Beckham twitted to Victoria 'thanks for the best birthday present ever'. Presumably he was laying in bed next to her at the time..... what a waste of time and load of nonsense!
Just off for a cuppa, leaving my desk now, seat rising, feet on floor, one step, two steps, pardon me?!?!?!
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I looked at Twitface once just to see what all the fuss was about. I got depressed because I had no friends and no followers twitting me.
I don't understand why a phone call or a chat with your mate down the pub is considered old fashioned.
Stay old-school my friends, this is the only online forum I use.
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Graham Bullough wrote:Also, the name 'Twitter' speaks for itself. Though I've never actually seen 'Twitter', from what I've read and heard about it from various sources, it's for twits who have nothing better to do than, well, twitter or chatter about inconsequential matters. Also, I get the same impressions about 'Facebook'.
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We fear/mock what we do not understand. Saying that people who use twitter have nothing better to do other than to chat about inconsequential matters is a little short sighted.
Like everything else its another tool in the toolbox when it comes to communication. Personally I have one setup for work purposes and purely follow H&S organisations and other parties tied in with H&S (charities etc) and a separate one for my personal interests.
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MaxPayne wrote:I don't understand why a phone call or a chat with your mate down the pub is considered old fashioned.
It isn't. Social media is just one of many tools for networking. Jobe has a point about mocking things you know nothing about. It'[s not compulsory to follow Victoria Beckham or anyone remotely like her.
Luddites. ;-) <--- this by the way is a smiley. It indicates that I'm not 100% serious with the luddites comment. Just in case it's a bit too "cutting edge" for some of you old fashioned types!
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Oh no! not another lady calling me a grumpy old man just like my wife does! Mind you, my wife does concede that some of my grumps are valid. e.g. when I shouted at Cabinet Minister Francis Maude on the TV recently when he suggested that motorists should buy jerrycans and stock up on petrol. (He's an indisputable candidate for an OS&H "wazzock of the week" or even the month, possibly year!)
Anyhow, I'm not old, just a late fiftysomething who admits to touches of creeping middle age. There are plenty of things to do and enjoy in life without squandering time on social networking via computer. It's far better to see real people. Even at work, I found that some things were notably easier and quicker to resolve by face to face discussion rather than exchanges of e-mails.
My apologies about Google. Though I use it mainly for internet searching and checking news updates, the maps and satellite images facility is very useful at times. Also, I'd overlooked the fact that I started using gmail accounts for some types of correspondence earlier this year. However, though I've seen the name 'Android' from time to time, I don't really know what it is (a type of humanoid creature from science fiction?) and don't care either: The world still keeps turning and other things keep happening as they should do. :-)
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Good response Heather - made me laugh!
Maybe people know enough about some things to know to avoid them. For example:
I haven't bought my children a wee machine cos they'd want to spend hours playing tennis etc on it, rather than actually 'playing tennis'.
The same philosophy goes for twitter. I see youngsters texting all the way home on the train. When they finally get to meet up with their friends, I bet they either can't find anything to talk about, or have somewhat lost the skill in direct communication.
IMO
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pete48 wrote:On the other hand there were those who predicted that the telephone would lead to the fall of society :-)
Predominantly small minded safety practitioners weren't they pete48?
;-)
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Shouting at the TV eh Graham? Oh dear, First step on the slippery slope to madness. I agree about the Minister being a wazzock though and I also agree that face to face discussion is usually better - not always possible though.
SP. It's "Wii", not "Wee", though the thought of a "wee machine" did make me giggle.
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I'm with Heather (well not with Heather, Just agree with her....) Twitter, FB, Google - its like garlic bread...Its the future. It all provides good updates, and you can get a response quick, Just like these forums but to a wider population
Live in the Now guys, Have a good weekend..
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Heather Collins wrote:Luddites. ;-) <--- this by the way is a smiley. It indicates that I'm not 100% serious with the luddites comment. Just in case it's a bit too "cutting edge" for some of you old fashioned types!
:-D There does seem to be a common theme that people who don't use (for example) twitter assume it is a load of rubbish with no valid purpose. Personally I use these and find them to be a very valuable source of information. Following IOSH, IIRSM, RoSPA, CIEH on twitter has been very interesting and often helpful. There is a risk of finding out what someone had for breakfast, lunch and dinner but you can 'unfollow' them and that's the last you'll hear of them.
My final comment - why use a forum? we could all meet in a seminar room somewhere, couldn't we? ;-)
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As its Friday....
Irony: Moaning about the use of Networking sites and never using them on an Internet forum which is used for Networking :P
Happy Friday! :)
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SP900308 wrote:Lucy,
Thankfully I have no understanding or interest in twitter.
There ends my contribution!
To quote meatloaf ,
you took the words right out of my mouth
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I find Twitter really useful in obtaining continuously up-to-the-minute information on what is currently occurring in the organisations/businesses, etc., of what I am interested or of what my clients may be interested. It keeps me in front of the game. I follow IOSH, EA, NFU, Lantra, Farm Crisis Network, agricultural colleges, and several worldwide farm safety organisations. I twitter on about farm safety issues and I have a slowly growing number of followers! It just takes a second or so to look through the list to see what is interesting - (similar to this forum) - and check out those to view.
Those who talk about kids running out of conversation clearly haven't got kids. Mine are in their 20s and 30s now, use twitter and facebook, always out and about, and never, ever, seem to run out of something they want to talk about.
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