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will1977  
#1 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:21:09(UTC)
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will1977

Hi, The company that I work for wishes to employ a 17 year old, as I understand it at that age he would be classed as a minor? I have a publication called THE RIGHT START - WORK EXPERIENCE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE The job that he will have will be working with machinery, manual handling, noise. This is a manufacturing environment that has a multitude of hazards, all of which have been assessed. All advice greatly accepted
pl53  
#2 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:32:37(UTC)
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pl53

I guess the main thing to consider is that a young person is much less experienced in all aspects of life and will require a higher level of supervision than some of his more experienced colleagues.That is not to say that he must be constantly watched but appointing a mentor look after the welfare of the young person, with regular reviews to monitor his progress, iron out any problems etc would be a good idea.
Kate  
#3 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:34:13(UTC)
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Kate

In H&S law he is classed as a young person. You need to reassess the hazards taking the young person into account. What to consider is in here: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/l21.htm
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 15 May 2012 08:22:54(UTC)
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bob youel

Provided you manage properly young people are great employees as are work experience people so take the good advice already given and get on with it
ctd167  
#5 Posted : 15 May 2012 15:55:05(UTC)
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ctd167

In the construction industry, all young persons are 'mentored' till after there 18th birthday, meaning they cant undertake any task without supervision. In my experience it works, i cant think of a single incidence where a young person has been injured.
Phil Grace  
#6 Posted : 15 May 2012 16:23:00(UTC)
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Phil Grace

All I can saw is that ctd167 has been very lucky. The claim files of my employer contain numerous examples of young people injured at work. There seem to be many causes ranging from simple lack of appreciation of the hazard/risk through failure to use PPE or the safety equipement provided to other situations where it is impossible to predict "why what was done was done". YPs can be unpredictable, they can possess a "I can't be harmed" view of life - I'm all for employing them but make sure everything possible is done to keep them safe. Fatal: 18 - fall from roof 19: Arm injury: Crushed by grab 17: Loss of sight, splash when mixing plaster 16: Leg injuries - attempted to start dumper truck whilst standing beside it 17: Loss of sight - mortar splash 17: Hand injury on WWM - fellow employee removed guard 20: Perm hand injury - trapped thumb between lifting chains and skip 16: Loss of thumb from using chop saw And then one only has to carry out an on-line search to find the tragic cases of YPs injured in butcher's shops whilst working on a Saturday. There's a lot of it about Phil
Fletcher  
#7 Posted : 16 May 2012 10:18:38(UTC)
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Fletcher

As already said YP's are inexperienced, often think they are indistructable and sometimes think they know it all. IMHO your company needs to select the right young person to start with then match them to a mentor who actually will show them how to do the job efficiently and safely. Training, mentoring and supervision are of vital importance in helping the YP become an competent adult.
ctd167  
#8 Posted : 16 May 2012 15:19:36(UTC)
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ctd167

When I say mentor.................I REALLY mean mentor! The apprentice spends ALL his working day with his mentor, except for the obvious ;-) The mentor is as a minimum requirement usually someone over 40, highly qualified with a minimum of 15 years experience. Until he is 18, the apprentice is not allowed to undertake any task without supervision. On a weekly basis, both the apprentice and his mentor are interviewed by a representative of the H&S dept to discuss 'lessons learnt' during the previous week. The apprentice also attends a weekly study group which discusses not only H&S in general, but specific subjects pertaining to the ongoing activities of the past week and the one to come. All apprentices before they reach 18 will also have gained the British Safety Council level 1 certificate in H&S Awareness and if there are any who show an aptitude, we'll even put them through there NEBOSH.
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