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What,s the avareage people charge for a fire R/A it is low level 'public house'. Is there anything that needs covering that doesn't immediately jump out.
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Invictus: That's a mighty big question, and forgive me, you haven't given an awful lot of information to go on.
I would need a postcode to enable a Google Streetview recce, an approximate area of the building (m2), plus details of whether sleeping accommodation is provided (staff or public), number of covers if a restaurant is part of the deal and details of any entertainment carried on.
The only definite I would give you is that if I got the job, I would complete the FRA and deliver it back to the RP, where I would insist upon cash (& cash only) before handing it over. I would ask the RP to sign an agreement to that effect before starting work.
The reason for all this? - The licensed trade is full of dodgy characters and itinerant bar managers. Bill these jobs in the normal way and you are likely to be chasing the money for weeks before finding that the manager/landlord has moved. Cash on delvery is the only way
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Thanks, messyshaw,
I have explained that I will need to visit prior to giving a price for the same reasons you give. I am sure tha it only a pub, no food managers living above.
Good point about the payment.
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Messy, you have a very low opinion of people who run pubs describing them as dodgy people. I have known landlords of many types over the years and they are generally hard working people often for very small reward other than making ends meet from week to week. The big pub chains have the market cornered these days so it is hard to make a decent living these days. The advice to get the thing contracted is good for both sides as it gives back up proof that you are doing the job as requested. One thing that concerns me though Invictus lists as one of his Groups Fire Risk Management but he feels he needs to ask such a basic question, hope he fully understands the role of a fire risk assessor or am I being a bit nit picky?
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bob shillabeer wrote:Messy, you have a very low opinion of people who run pubs describing them as dodgy people. I have known landlords of many types over the years and they are generally hard working people often for very small reward other than making ends meet from week to week. The big pub chains have the market cornered these days so it is hard to make a decent living these days. The advice to get the thing contracted is good for both sides as it gives back up proof that you are doing the job as requested. One thing that concerns me though Invictus lists as one of his Groups Fire Risk Management but he feels he needs to ask such a basic question, hope he fully understands the role of a fire risk assessor or am I being a bit nit picky?
Sorry what's the basic question, I only asked the price and is there anything that doesn't imediately jump out.
I thought that was the idea of these pages to ask questions. I am trained in fire risk assessment hold Advanced and lead auditors certificates and carry out assessments for accomadation that holds over a thousand people. I have walked around may a site probably like we all have, andf were the H&S person has been an excellent practitioner and at times pointed out basic none compliances, so thought I would ask prior to going into the pub. I do apologise if this offends and please don't refer to me in the third person. I look at a lot of posts on these pages and it never ceases to amaze me that a lot of people offer very little.
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I've done a few basic FRA's one of which was for an Office/workshop and accommodation above and might be similar to a public house I suppose. Because I was a little unsure (not have done a mixed business/accommodation FRA before) I passed it across the local Fire Service and asked what they thought, they thought it was fine. In answer that only took 1 1/2 days in total (including drawing plans and making up an emergency procedures instruction card). So I'd suggest multiplying your day rate by 2.
Interesting concept - I'd be happy to do some pubs for payment in-kind (beer), wonder if I'd still be covered under professional indemnity?
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Thanks both for the worth while information.
Regards
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bob shillabeer wrote:Messy, you have a very low opinion of people who run pubs describing them as dodgy people.
You must have a more decent lot down your neck of the woods Bob. I should clarify, I meant licensed trade including restaurants and if you haven't come across any gangster types, or pub managers who run a pub for a few weeks and then constantly move on, you have done well.
Of course I don't mean all landlords (God forbid my anonymity was breached, as I'd never get a pint anywhere)
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Excellent and along similar fees that I charge.
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This is a very reasonable question to ask and shows that 'Invictus' is acting in a competent way by asking the question in the first place
Each person must ask and answer their own question re such areas as its only they who can feel what is best for them as its only they who know their own circumstances
I always risk assess an assignment before I take it on and the higher the risk to me personally that the work is the more I charge as its I in the end who may cop it should something go wrong and I would always put quality [suitable and sufficient] first
NB: at least 80% of the FRA's that I have personally seen to date I have binned as in my own opinion, after >35years experience in these areas, they were very poor
Best of luck
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