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SWBQ  
#1 Posted : 19 June 2012 11:03:03(UTC)
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SWBQ

Hi everyone, I have been asked to look at a set of safety accountabilities for our staff who use powered equipment (fork lifts, paternosters, gienies etc). This is in addition to their training (which is our legal requirement). The accountabilities includes points such as: I will operate equipment as per my training and any other relevant company controls in place at that time. I will select the most appropriate piece of equipment for the task to be completed I will not use a mobile phone, including the store phone, whilst operating the equipment. I will sound the horn whenever entering the goods in area, through strip curtains and when approaching blind corners My questions are: Are they actually required? Do they actually work? Are they just a big stick which just gets pulled out when they do something wrong? What is the legal perspective on accountabilities? All of the accountabilities are signed annually at the moment and an operator may have to sign up to 10 accountability sheets (for each individual piece of equipment). Any advice on this would be really useful. Thanks.
Tomkins26432  
#2 Posted : 19 June 2012 12:29:52(UTC)
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Tomkins26432

Our organisation wouldn't call these accountabilities, and I'd see them split into two: Both of the first 2 - "I will operate equipment as per my training and any other relevant company controls in place at that time. I will select the most appropriate piece of equipment for the task to be completed." Are just bits of the training and surely could be unsaid if your operators are deemed competent, as the options are: "I will operate equipment in others ways as to how I've been trained & select the wrong tools for the job" The second two I think are controls you might put in place as part of your risk assessment (and probably are). Can you not expect employees to follow agreed requirements of a risk assessment? I will not use a mobile phone, including the store phone, whilst operating the equipment. I will sound the horn whenever entering the goods in area, through strip curtains and when approaching blind corners. The organisations risk assessment requires staff not to use mobile phones while operating equipment and drivers are required to sound horns....etc. Failure to do this may cause unacceptable hazards. Wooops I'm rambling... But each requirement sounds perfectly acceptable to me if your risk assessments have identified them. do they work? Probably only if enforced as they should be through monitoring by supervising staff. If they are not being followed or enforced I'd suspect the legal issues would be around your organisation identifying hazards, putting in place the required safety protocols then not enforcing them. There have been a couple of prosecutions where large manafacturing firms have had in place safety systems and then knowingly permitted staff to circumvent them.
Lawlee45239  
#3 Posted : 19 June 2012 13:16:34(UTC)
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Lawlee45239

SWBQ wrote:
My questions are: Are they actually required? Do they actually work? Are they just a big stick which just gets pulled out when they do something wrong? What is the legal perspective on accountabilities?
Hi ya, My opinion is; 1. Not really required as such, but if its your form of IIT (information, instruction and training) then so be it. 2. How long have these forms been in place, has it worked in the past? Have there been accidents/incidents/near misses in relation to any of the items specified? 3. Only you can answer that, when are they used? Are there any disciplinary actions taken if an operative is found to be using the mobile for example? And finally, 'if it aint broke dont try fix it'. If the system is in place, working, and no accidents/incidents etc then these may be working in your instance. Perhaps you could make it a one page document, and have a section whereby there is a tick box for all plant in the company, and the operatives tick what they use.
Stuart Smiles  
#4 Posted : 19 June 2012 18:43:32(UTC)
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Stuart Smiles

Hi, I have forwarded what we use as a coverall template to you, however i THINK that the question is about behaviours, and as such We have tried to go through the behaviours we want, as a one page document, because it wants to be applied in different situations. By looking at behaviours that are both good and bad, then it's a case of showing where you want them to be, as well as pointing out what happens if they don't. I also have said in the meetings, that it was better if we have the talk before rather than after the issue. At least they know where they stand.
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