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NR  
#1 Posted : 12 July 2012 10:34:12(UTC)
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NR

What training do you provide to the lead member of an incident investigation team?

I ask this as a client has asked me this very question. Generally post an incident we nominate an independent Project Manager to lead an investigation, supported as a minimum by a HSE adviser.

We have a work method to support the process but this doesn't provide training on how to conduct an investigation, neither does it provide much in the way of understanding incident causes etc

imwaldra  
#2 Posted : 14 July 2012 09:18:50(UTC)
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imwaldra

In my experience (mainly oil & gas), it's not practical to pre-train the lead team member, as you never know who it may be - they have to be independant of the incident and also relatively easily released from other work for a short time, and also there arn't that many serious events requiring such an investigation.

The solution is to have as their 'right hand person' in the team an experienced OSH professional who HAS been suitably trained. I've carried out this role several times, always with a different senior manager and with great benefit for both of us, as well as the organisation when they received our report. Usually the team had other members too, but the key relationship is the one I describe.

The IOSH Guide 'Learning the Lessons' is a starting point for what the professional needs to be competent in. Send me a PM if you're interested in a 1-day 'refresher' for experienced investigators, which reminds them (or maybe teaches them) some of the 'tricks of the trade'.
HassanFarhan  
#3 Posted : 14 July 2012 13:25:01(UTC)
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HassanFarhan

Dear
pleae send me your email i will sand you Presintations in Accident investigation.

regard,
David H  
#4 Posted : 14 July 2012 16:13:18(UTC)
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David H

HSG245 will give good guidance on what is needed to identify root causes.

But as Imwaldra has stated - the investigation should involve several parties depending on the incident outcome - or potential severity - and the team should be guided by a professional who can advise them on the company procedure and advise on how to gather and group the information findings.

David
NR  
#5 Posted : 16 July 2012 12:05:15(UTC)
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NR

Imwaldra you are making the assumption that OSH Professionals have been trained in accident/incident investigations.

teh_boy  
#6 Posted : 16 July 2012 12:13:48(UTC)
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teh_boy

IOSH Managing Safely does a good job of giving an overview of the process....
NR  
#7 Posted : 16 July 2012 12:16:52(UTC)
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NR

What process?
teh_boy  
#8 Posted : 16 July 2012 12:17:24(UTC)
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teh_boy

NR wrote:
What process?



Incident investigation!
NR  
#9 Posted : 17 July 2012 09:45:56(UTC)
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NR

Accepting there is a process for conducting an investigation such as cordon the area, conduct interviews etc

The area I was more concerned with (which I accept wasn't articulated very well) was how does a project manager evaluate the evidence and establish immediate, underlying and root causes etc and conclude with relevant, appropriate and proportionate recommendations.

This is my experience of where the process falls down.
teh_boy  
#10 Posted : 17 July 2012 11:24:14(UTC)
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teh_boy

Quote:
how does a project manager evaluate the evidence and establish immediate, underlying and root causes etc [/qoute]


This has been answered - HSG245

I always teach the use of a simple fault tree type approach - or just asking why? in order to identify root cause.... I found this approach really useful when engaging a team in the process.
teh_boy  
#11 Posted : 17 July 2012 11:34:40(UTC)
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teh_boy

Scotland1  
#12 Posted : 18 July 2012 13:40:49(UTC)
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I went on a course Event Investigation carried out by Baines & Simmons, which goes on about why an accident happens, how to investigate it, interview techniques, information gathering and so on. So far i have carried out 2 investigations and sat in on a review board to look over another investigation's report.

The course gives you great confidence in yourself and ability to carry out an investigation successfully !!
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