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Gary 1874  
#1 Posted : 17 July 2012 13:16:11(UTC)
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Gary 1874

After carrying out a RA, and as a last resort, I have advised that the operator working in the weighroom should wear forced air hood system as he is exposed to dust for long periods. However one of my colleagues at another site has deemed that the normal issue FFP3 face mask be suitable. Has anyone else out there faced a similar issue?
teh_boy  
#2 Posted : 17 July 2012 14:23:14(UTC)
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teh_boy

YES a few very quick points WEL dust = 10mg-3 A typical p3 = 10 x protection factor (confirmed via fit test) So max dust = 100mg-3 (that's very dusty!) This must be confirmed by sampling! Airflow OK - but don't forget flour dust is explosive (Flour LEL = 60mg-3) Minimum Ignition energy = 300 - 1000mj Ensure airflow is rated to protect against this! Also - control better than PPE - what LEV system are in place etc??? hope that helps - numbers are plucked from google / my head - as I am running late :)
MichaelMorrisroe  
#3 Posted : 17 July 2012 14:42:29(UTC)
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MichaelMorrisroe

A FFP3 mask that conforms to EN149 (I think) will filter out most airborne particulates with a small amount of permissable leakage. However, that is best case scenario after face fit tests, etc, etc.. I'm with teh_boy here. I would suggest your bigger problems are based around the organisations (seemingly) lack of engineering controls, and in particular, how they conform to both DSEAR and ATEX requirements.
PIKEMAN  
#4 Posted : 17 July 2012 15:26:23(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

I think that what needs to be considered is that the primary factor in deciding which RPE to use is to use the Assigned Protection Factor (divide conc outside by the conc required inside the mask)- this gives the APF which is a number with no units. You then look up in the guidance (see below) which type of RPE is suitable - it IS possible that 2 different types of RPE could work, what is vital is ensuring that they meet the APF required. You can use the HSE RPE selector tool http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg53.pdf or do it online http://www.healthyworkin...pe-selector/default.aspx Hope this helps.
Phillips20760  
#5 Posted : 17 July 2012 17:13:34(UTC)
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Phillips20760

Had similar issues at our industrial bakeries and unfortunately there isn't one answer that fits all. As a result of our assessments we found that FFP3 were adequate. This decision was based on the fact that flour is pumped directly from the silos into the mixing hoppers with little or no dust cloud and in an area away from the operator. The operator does however weigh enzymes, salts and other ingredients as well as 'topping up' flour levels. Dust is minimsed by: * training in opening bags correctly to minimise dust. * air hood LEv provided and bags opened underneath it. * guarding and shrouds added to sieves etc. to prevent dust clouds. * Delayed start up of mixing equipment * Lids on everything! All depends on your exact scenario I'm afraid but in the bakeries I've seen FFP3 usually does suffice if suitable engineering controls have been implemented. If anything dust and flour is minimised primarily because of ATEX and the minimsing of fire risk etc. Apologies for egg sucking moment but INDG429 & HSG138 give good examples of the prevention of flour build up and should be the basis of your RA and training. Hope this helps, Ian
Phillips20760  
#6 Posted : 17 July 2012 17:15:49(UTC)
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Phillips20760

P.S. as per previous posters, our controls were validated via air monitoring & individual testing through Occy Health as is required under CoSHH.
Gary 1874  
#7 Posted : 18 July 2012 14:29:22(UTC)
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Gary 1874

Thanks guys.
tony.  
#8 Posted : 18 July 2012 17:26:23(UTC)
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tony.

Whats does the dsear report say? Flammable dusts etc zone 20,21,22 Tony
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