Health and Safety Executive Paper M2/2012/2 Paper by SID to CONIAC 20th July (A very good analysis of the true challenges of the proposed updates and one I oersonally do hope CONIAC pays attention towards) There are a number of issues that arise for me and others with the revision of the CDM Regs 2007 consultation in progress and I wanted to find out what others thought and what if anything could be done about some of the issues - if there is general consensus as to those issues. I have drawn out two for this discussion thread: 1. Proposals to extend the definition of Client under the regulations to include Domestic Customers What additional competencies with a property owner require in the future if they are given obligations under the law? What additional costs will be placed on home ownership through this requirement? Does anyone have a view on the true pros and cons of this revision? Shouldn't Property Owners be informed in some manner now so that they can contribute to the consultation? How will a home owner be informed of their new obligations when commissioning work on their property? 2. The validity of the assumptions made and thefore the proposals for improvment Has there really been an adequate reflection of the knowledge across the construction industry in the proposals being made? Have the assumptions about SME's and small sites really been validated? Does anyone have a view on the adequacy of the assumptions used to make the newest proposals? How do we (the H&S profession) ensure that the updated regulations add to safety in construction and improved performance and efficiency for the industry and avoid bureacracy and additional burden? The outcome of the CONIAC session on the 20th July will be very useful in informing these question but I wondered how widespread the awareness of the issues was - hence this posting.

Ron I don't buy in either for the same reason and also that the UK parent HSWA places duties on non-domestic clients, but not domestic ones.