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Docking36832  
#1 Posted : 03 August 2012 14:40:28(UTC)
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Docking36832

Have any of you worn the CDM Coodinator hat for CDM projects within your premises? Any Pros and Cons in doing so?
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 03 August 2012 15:53:00(UTC)
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bob youel

I expect that many undertake this multi role situation on a regular basis you must be a character that does not easily get bullied/waylaid etc by anybody and you must be able to balance the different roles and be confident as well as competent in what you are doing in both areas
Steve e ashton  
#3 Posted : 03 August 2012 16:41:34(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

Yes, and yes.... As Client SHE Manager and as project CDM-co-ordinator - the post holder needs to be able to advise the client of his duties under CDM (as CDM Co-ordinator) and under H&S law (as SHE Manager)... There is arguably some synergy, but there can also be conflict.. Not really a problem until the conflicts arise... Or until the PC or Designer challenges... You need to have a very good understanding of both roles, and a sufficiently robust personality to withstand the inevitable challenges... But yes, it can be done and (I would like to think) it can be done be done successfully.... Steve
terrypike  
#4 Posted : 04 August 2012 19:48:40(UTC)
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terrypike

I've not done so myself but have had a lot of experience with CDM-Cs as a principal contractor and now act as one myself. It will take a good strength of character to separate the rolls and not allow oneself to be bullied either by the employer or the designers etc. Being both rolls should mean that there are adequate resources in time and money to do do the job properly if allowed to do so. The CDM-C will need a firm committment from the employer (client) that the CDM-C's roll will be treated with all seriousnes and not just as lip service to the roll. I would suggest if you are taking the roll you separate the jobs and make sure all advice etc is in writing and keep records. The CDM-C has legal duties and could be prosecuted separately if the "cleint" tries to use the defence that the CDM-C hadn't advised properly. There is also the question of competenct to do the roll as in appendix 4 of the CDM regs. With the right planing and commitments there isn't any reason that this won't work though.
Sutty31  
#5 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:26:28(UTC)
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Sutty31

Have previously performed both roles.... currently deliver the dual role.... i agree you need to be strong, firm and not be open to pressure from the PC, especially if its the same company you work for...
DavidBrede  
#6 Posted : 08 August 2012 22:14:47(UTC)
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DavidBrede

Yes but been in the more fortunate role of being a contractor so slightly detached from the client side. The upside is that an in house resource should have a very clear idea of the clients interests and how things work with the organisations. The downside is clearly that even in the best run businesses the CDM C will face pressures if their is a conflict where they are challenging what the client side is wanting to do. Clearly the ideal is to have an in house resource that is very independent and has strong characters who can resist the pressure and ensure that the CDM C role is delivered to the best standards and in line with the legislation. These persons will have good local expertise of the firm and can react quickly in the event changes of priorities.
Docking36832  
#7 Posted : 09 August 2012 11:07:57(UTC)
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Docking36832

Thanks everyone and I understand everyone's comments plus read the ACOP re role, competence etc. So far it's going well.
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