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We don't employ drivers/fleet but have many who drive for work - grey fleet, car allowance and pool cars.
I've purchased online driver risk assessment etc but there's little specific guidance on whether to RA all of them or just those who do X number of miles per year (at both ends of the spectrum). So to risk assess all, on staggered basis depending on funds, or those who do 1000 miles plus only and having accidents plus new/young drivers? What are your thoughts please?
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I don't believe you can decide who to assess because of funds. You need to be able to assess the risk, perhaps start with pool car use, accident rates, points on licence and start with those that are high risk . You could assess all drivers and have an approach that where they are high risk you do further assessments and training. The HSE and ROSPA have some good information on their web sites re this. It also depends on what the on line assessment is as to how to approach. My last organisation started with those who had car allowance or company vehicles and were going to address the grey fleet later. Those with company cars were easier to identify and assess regarding accidents etc.
Hope this helps.
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The frequency of driving in terms of mileage will surely dictate the level of risk regardless of the controls which are implemented?
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RayRapp wrote:The frequency of driving in terms of mileage will surely dictate the level of risk regardless of the controls which are implemented? Are we not now already risk assessing??? - The irony :)
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Mileage is only one of the factors to look at when risk assessing drivers. Location, age, previous history etc. are other factors, so I would suggest risk assess all drivers to at least benchmark for future reference. Another thought on a tangent, people who drive least might not be getting enough driving experience to increase competence!
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brigham wrote:Mileage is only one of the factors to look at when risk assessing drivers. Location, age, previous history etc. are other factors, so I would suggest risk assess all drivers to at least benchmark for future reference. Another thought on a tangent, people who drive least might not be getting enough driving experience to increase competence! Are we really supposed to risk assess individual drivers and their foibles? I don't think so.
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RayRapp wrote:brigham wrote:Mileage is only one of the factors to look at when risk assessing drivers. Location, age, previous history etc. are other factors, so I would suggest risk assess all drivers to at least benchmark for future reference. Another thought on a tangent, people who drive least might not be getting enough driving experience to increase competence! To a certain extent yes. This issue raised it head in our organisation when we identified a couple of drivers who other staff would not share a vehicle with. Like Docking, we do not operate vehicle fleet as such; we do have a few pool cars, grey fleet and some users drive their own vehicles to visit clients, meetings etc. because of this driving for work was not seen as serious issue until we heard about this. Unfortunately no two drivers have the same driving profile so a totally generic assessment is no use. So we must think down to the individual driver and their requirements. Are we really supposed to risk assess individual drivers and their foibles? I don't think so.
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I cannot see that there is any good reason to RA individual drivers. Employees should provide a health questionnaire when starting work which should identify any long or short-terms ailments, employers provide driver awareness training maybe, obtain periodical copies of their licence, etc. Under normal circumstances I do not see any benefits of doing individual RAs - surely there are enough meaningless RAs in this world without adding more?
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The number of miles travelled doesn't seem an unreasonable factor to use when trying to decide on the level of risk. However, given the limited information that you have provided I would agree that 'routine' individual driver RAs is probably not necessary.
For our heavy fleet drivers we include driver assessment in the CPC and we also do further driver assessments if drivers keep having 'dinks'.
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Length of time he/she has been driving (has a licence ever been declined on health grounds)
Points on licence (what for: speeding/vehicle condition/dangerous driving)
Amount of NCB.
Job done.
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