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ahoskins  
#1 Posted : 12 September 2012 13:14:14(UTC)
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ahoskins

"According to a statement, which marked one of the new Business Minister Michael Fallon’s first activities since being appointed to the post in last week’s reshuffle, shops, offices, pubs and clubs will no longer face burdensome health and safety inspections and over 3,000 regulations will be scrapped or overhauled. From April 2013, the Government plans to introduce binding new rules on both the Health and Safety Executive and on local authorities in order to exempt hundreds of thousands of businesses from inspections – which will then only take place for businesses in higher risk sectors such as construction or for firms which have experienced a health and safety incident or those with or a track record of poor performances." (quoted from the Workplace Law website) So let me see if I fully understand this proposal... If I am a low risk industry and don't bother to report any of my health and safety incidents, I will never be visited by the HSE/EHO? That will definitely reduce the burden then! or am I being too cynical? Alan
firestar967  
#2 Posted : 12 September 2012 13:32:13(UTC)
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firestar967

Fits this government lets wait for the train wreck and then do something about it! So much of proactive health and safety lets just stick to reactive health and safety that always works doesn't it?
jwk  
#3 Posted : 13 September 2012 10:04:31(UTC)
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jwk

I think there is some politicking going on here. Govt can't afford to alienate it's natural constituency (Daily Wail, Torygraph etc) so has to do something about 'H&S gorn mad', is also obsessed with money (well, it's a Tory govt so it would be). Maybe, and I'm just floating this as an idea, just maybe doesn't actually want to do anything which will cause too much mayhem, on account of serious accidents, deaths, moral culpability, bad publicity, aggrieved relatives etc etc. So decides to cut inspection in 'low risk' premises. Tory press (which is most of it) sounds forth with trumpets and hurrahs. What actual difference will that make? We have 450 shops, probably get less than a dozen H&S inspections (by LEA of course) across the estate in any given year. We have three office bases, none of which has, to my knowledge, had a H&S inspection in the 8 years I've been here. So from a very low level of inspection to zero won't make much difference, as far as I can see, so govt. gets the headlines but avoids the other, unwelcome headlines (Woolworth's fire anybody?). Fire inspections will continue, we do get those, and they are very helpful. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a more active preventative approach from HSE & LEAs, and this is a retrograde step from an already bad position, but I think it's a relatively small one, John
DP  
#4 Posted : 13 September 2012 10:27:20(UTC)
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DP

ahoskins - then add the removal to report accidents involving members of the public from L73, which I'm led to believe is in consultation - you are probably right. However, LA EHO's (if there is any left by the time this Gov is done) will still be required to act on complaints from staff and customers - so I foresee that Unions will simply encourage members to do exactly this to get a regular in the premises. See where we are going with all this cant you - backwards - it’s a complete mess if we are to believe what we are being told.
RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 13 September 2012 10:32:16(UTC)
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RayRapp

Is this the type of low risk environment the government had in mind? http://www.shponline.co....om-sling-at-nursing-home
jwk  
#6 Posted : 13 September 2012 10:38:38(UTC)
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jwk

Morning Ray, They haven't mentioned care premises at all, but once again, inspections from HSE at our care homes are very few and far between, we get much more prodding on H&S from CQC, John
walker  
#7 Posted : 13 September 2012 10:55:10(UTC)
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walker

RayRapp wrote:
Is this the type of low risk environment the government had in mind? http://www.shponline.co....om-sling-at-nursing-home
This is yet another example of HSE closing empty stable doors. Is being proactive no longer part of their remit? Less talk ( blogs, setting records straight, utterly pointless Challenge panels) and more action please Judith!
Johnmann  
#8 Posted : 13 September 2012 11:40:45(UTC)
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Johnmann

walker wrote:
This is yet another example of HSE closing empty stable doors.
Indeed. I am ROES for a small company carrying out electronic manufacturing and also mechanical work, sometimes on quite big kit. In seven years we have never been inspected. I can't see that this announcement will mean any change.
BuzzLightyear  
#9 Posted : 13 September 2012 13:41:45(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

I suppose now the feelgood factor of the Olympics is over they are back to fighting phantom monsters in a feeble attempt to distract the public from the state of the economy.
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