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Hello all,
I'm now looking at doing some further training and am looking for any ideas from H&S Professionals. I already have the following ones and have been thinking about trying some NLP training:
NEBOSH Cert
NVQ4 OSH
14001 lead auditor
18001 lead auditor
Lots of train the trainers
PTLLS
BOSIET (offshore)
Climbing (wind turbines)
First Aid
Any ideas???
R
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rasput1 wrote:Hello all,
I'm now looking at doing some further training and am looking for any ideas from H&S Professionals. I already have the following ones and have been thinking about trying some NLP training:
NEBOSH Cert
NVQ4 OSH
14001 lead auditor
18001 lead auditor
Lots of train the trainers
PTLLS
BOSIET (offshore)
Climbing (wind turbines)
First Aid
Any ideas???
R How about Culture/ behaviour?
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I'd thought about Culture & Behaviour, but I'm getting really drawn towards NLP.
Has anyone done any NLP training?
R
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Laws, the stuff you have puts me in my place..
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that should have read...rasput1 of course...
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Are you just collecting qualifications?
Unless you feel a need to develop yourself further in a particular area I can't see the point of training just for the sake of it. In my opinion unless you are then going to put that knowedge to extensive use the skills will be forgotten anyway then it is just another certificate.
Identify an area of weakness that impacts on your daily job or an area of real need or why bother?
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What about the IEMA certificate, I am pondering this one myself. It is a useful thing to have to complement the pure H&S qualifications.
No learning is ever wasted as long as you, personally, get something from it.
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@ zimmy - Why to feel 'put in your place'? The list was to eliminate any suggestions that may be given that I already have.
@Clairel - You may not see the point in continued learning/training, but I enjoy the process as it exercises my brain. The learning could, and has been, anything from memory techniques - juggling with clubs (all of which have been conquered). NLP was just something I'd been looking at.
To be honest, I don't do the training for the certificates. I do it because I enjoy learning.
A final comment on your point of 'why bother', all I will say is "why not bother"?
R
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To be honest, I don't do the training for the certificates. I do it because I enjoy learning.
R In that case why not go down an academic route such as MSc in one of the safety/health related subjects such as ergonomics, hygiene or a more general H&S one?
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Have thought about the Msc but quite fancy branching out and looking at the Psychological side of safety.
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If by 'the psychological side of safety' you mean scientifcally valid methods of psychological enquiry and validation, the Open University offers several courses recognised by the British Psychological Society and other national professional societies of psychologists.
If you want a good introduction to leadership psychology applicable to safety, read any of the three books by Alex Haslam, professor of social psychology at Exeter University on social identity related to organisations and to leadership. They're available on Amazon. His 'Psychology in Organizations. The Social Identity Approach', 2nd edition, Sage, 2004, is probably the best book on the subject for 'outsiders'.
If you want something much less rigorous, you could usefully try either of the books by Tim Marsh, C Psychol, CFIOSH, who's witty, clear and well-informed about safety management.
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KieranD wrote:If by 'the psychological side of safety' you mean scientifcally valid methods of psychological enquiry and validation, the Open University offers several courses recognised by the British Psychological Society and other national professional societies of psychologists.
If you want a good introduction to leadership psychology applicable to safety, read any of the three books by Alex Haslam, professor of social psychology at Exeter University on social identity related to organisations and to leadership. They're available on Amazon. His 'Psychology in Organizations. The Social Identity Approach', 2nd edition, Sage, 2004, is probably the best book on the subject for 'outsiders'.
If you want something much less rigorous, you could usefully try either of the books by Tim Marsh, C Psychol, CFIOSH, who's witty, clear and well-informed about safety management. Many thanks Kieran
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You're welcome.....
I should also have referred to 'The Psychology of Safety', by E Scott Geller, CRC Press. It applies psychology from the perspectives of behaviour, personality and the work environment
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I fancy doing a degree in risk management once I've got my NVQ5 boxed off. Just because I think it would be interesting. Do what you think you will enjoy
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Why not look at Executive Coaching. I'm currently studying the ILM Level 7 (equivelent of PgC), which learns different models such as behavioural, solution focus, cognitive as well as NLP. Quite early in, but so far, so good.
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quote=safetygirl]Why not look at Executive Coaching. I'm currently studying the ILM Level 7 (equivelent of PgC), which learns different models such as behavioural, solution focus, cognitive as well as NLP. Quite early in, but so far, so good. SG's made an excellent suggestion. I'm working my way through a series of coaching/facilitating courses at the moment and was a little surprised to find a number of NLP principles to be included in the course content. Having done previous reading on NLP I'd urge that you don't solely focus on it as a method for change in itself. We're currently going through a massive culture change program at the moment and I've also been reading up on viral and 'guerrilla' advertising techniques as you need to get people interested and having conversations about what's happening. Conversation and interest is the key and through that change will evolve with a little guidance.
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Thanks all,
Really helpful comments.
Cheers
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rasput1...Keep on learning!
Some of the best courses I have completed with some of the best learning are those run by the Institute of Industrial Accident Investigators....Covers everything from accident models, regulatory requirements/drivers, interviewing techniques, communication, human error models and theories around human behaviour, investigation models and techniques, etc
Thoroughly stimulating and though provoking!
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