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Hello,
Traditionally as a company we have risk assement guides and gain signatures from all employees to say they have read an understood them.
Now for one of our parts of the business I have a guide specific to them but its got 100 risk assesments in . Do I really need to get all staff to go through this full guide and sign?
During personal injury claims the solicitors ask for proof theyve seen the risk assesment.
Im just concerned as its information overload for the staff.
what do you think?
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Does every risk assessment apply to every member of staff in that section? If not, would it be possible to break the list down into sections and ask each member to sign only that list that is applicable to them.
I would be concerned at the concept that each member of staff should be aware of and comply with some 100 risk assessments in their day to day activities. I also suspect that this is something that a lawyer would pick up on should a case end up in court. "Can you recite all the relevant risk assessments that apply to your work?"
Chris
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Surely the job is to share the findings of those risk assessments with those affected. This is done in all sorts of ways: general H&S training, job-specific training, posters, procedures...... It is worth them knowing that all this information has been arrived at from the risk assessment process.
I'd shoot myself if I was expected to read all those things. Similar approach sometimes applied to policies. Those on the shopfloor don't need to be familiar with policies, they just need to know how the policy has been applied in their bit of the organisation.
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To be honest theyve all done the safe sytsems of work in relation to these , two weeks later of intense training Im out of breath lol
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During personal injury claims the solicitors ask for proof theyve seen the risk assesment.
At the risk of being bold I would ask why are we being driven by solicitors? Risk Assessments need only be made available to employees. Going down the route of getting them to sign a document to say they have read it is nothing more than 'paper safety'. A piece of paper never saved anyone. As the previous poster has mentioned, it is the end product arising from the RAs which is important - not the recipe.
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In 1992, the management regulations, based on the EU directive set the duty to identify the measures needed to comply with requirements and prohibitions of relevant legislation. They stated that this should be done by an assessment of the risks to health and safety.
So why 20 years later are we still doing risk assessments and asking our employees to sign to say they have read them. Do we have the measures in place, are they standing the test of time, are they adequately controlling the risks in our business?
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Risk assessments are a management tool to identify what risks are present and how high that risk is, so why insist that every employee reads and understands them? I have known senior managers who are unable to understand even simple risk assessments, but that is another issue. The most important thing is that they understand the controls that must be applied to reduce the risk actually happening. Many people who undertake the work in question can suffer from information overload and miss the important part of actually implementing the control measures.
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As others have indicated employees do not necessarily need to see risk assessments. What they should be getting is the significant findings from the risk assessment and any controls that need to be in place - that is, what they need to know & do to minimise any risk of injury, illness or disease. Along the lines of " if you do this task - then there is a potential risk to you if you do not do this, this and this. The safe way of doing this task is....." .
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Lisareed - what do you mean by a risk assessment 'guide'? We have a guidance doc that we issue to front line teams that helps make sense of applying risk principles (5x5 semi quantitative stuff). But we don't share assessments with staff (other than legal obligations to H&S reps) less still get them to sign for them. As others have said, it's not the numbers and factors that are directly important to front line - it's the resulting safe system.
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ps - Solicitors never ask us for evidence staff have seen risk assessments. That they exist, yes, though we challenge the relevance quite a lot as it tends to be just an item on a list they work from.
If you post me seperately, I may be able to share our protocol for what we may disclose.
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