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Safety Geek  
#1 Posted : 09 October 2012 13:33:22(UTC)
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Safety Geek

Afternoon all, I currently advise a large motor vehicle repair company, on each site they have a number of workshops and a large site area for the storage of vehicles. Now currently the site rules include: 1, Site Speed Limits; 2, Requirement to wear seat belts at all times; 3, Requirement to wear Hi-Viz in all transport areas; 4, Requirement to operate the vehicle hazard lights when operating the vehicles. It's the 4th rule that is causing an issue, the vehicle operators on site have stated that it is more hazardous to have the hazard lights on at all times because drivers cannot indicate if they wish to change direction. I can see both side of the argument that the hazard lights show that they are a moving vehicle hazard but then I can also see the confusion this is causing. As part of being competent I'm now asking for further advice from the forum to define the best route of action. Best Regards Barney#1
Andrew W Walker  
#2 Posted : 09 October 2012 13:40:47(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Barney#1 I can see why its causing an issue. Personally I would not have hazards on all of the time- can be confusing. In a previous life I worked at a site where there were hundreds of trailer movements in a 24 hour period, and hazards on was only when the vehicle was reversing. It worked very well. Are you able to operate a one way system? Andy
colinreeves  
#3 Posted : 09 October 2012 13:52:30(UTC)
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colinreeves

When I worked on a large site with forktrucks, artics, reach-stackers etc all plant vehicles had rotating orange lights on cabs - indicators could still be used for directional functions. If I had the misfortune to need to use my own car I also used a rotating amber light magnetically attached to the roof fed from the cigarette lighter socket. This worked well, but may not be practicable on your site. However, these lights are very portable.
Safety Geek  
#4 Posted : 09 October 2012 14:04:18(UTC)
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Safety Geek

There are that many vehicle movements that to have portable hazard lights wouldn't be practicable. The are one way systems in place in some areas but not all. I'm thinking of advising that they don't require the use of the hazard lights but I want to be sure I'm giving the correct advice before I do this. I feel that there is more risk of a collision with the hazard lights on at all times.
Rob M  
#5 Posted : 09 October 2012 14:49:54(UTC)
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Rob M

what about putting roof mounted warning lights on the vehicles, freeing up the indicators?
David Bannister  
#6 Posted : 09 October 2012 16:56:24(UTC)
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David Bannister

If the (presumably low) site speed limit is being observed, the change of direction issue may not actually be an issue: the low speed change of direction and drivers' awareness of other site users should be sufficient to avoid danger. A moving vehicle is a hazard, but I don't really understand why the enforced use of hazard flashers is necessary, particularly if there are frequent vehicle movements on the site. If there is poor visibility then the vehicle running lamps/headlamps should be in use. Pedestrians should be made aware of the risks and drivers should always drive with other site users in mind. No firm advice or a solution here then, just a couple of thoughts.
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