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MEden380  
#1 Posted : 10 October 2012 12:14:56(UTC)
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MEden380

Having been asked to provide a W@H Rescue Plan for a forth coming project - No particular issue in producing and providing for the use of scissor lift MEWP.
However, have also a request for a rescue plan when using scaffold. This I have an issue with, if someone is taking ill or injures themselves when working on a scaffold basic first aid dictates that you make safe and comfortable and await trained emergency personnel to deal with injury / illness, not strap them to a stretcher and lower down or up to ground level.
Has anybody else been asked to do this and if you have would you loan me a copy of what you produced.
Please bear in mind that any work we do on scaffolds is relatively short duration and not over 6 metres.
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 10 October 2012 12:32:59(UTC)
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bob youel

more and more the various services are looking for self rescue systems to be in place
paul reynolds  
#3 Posted : 10 October 2012 13:18:55(UTC)
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paul reynolds

Mark

Don't forget that once you have your rescue plan in place you then have to ensure that those who may use it will need to be competent.

Might be worth having alook at the MillerSafescape Elite, I have seen this used and seems to work quite well
Regards

PaulR
smith6720  
#4 Posted : 10 October 2012 15:54:53(UTC)
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smith6720

Without knowing the history or full facts it is difficult to answer accuratley:

Do you provide a resue plan when you are working on the 3rd floor of a muliti storey block?

Then why do you have to provide a rescue plan for working on a completed handed over scaffold, in which you had nothing to to do with the process, in this case it would be up to the provider to ensure that suitable access/egress, as part of the scaffold, what type, I am unsure (ladders,haki staircase,passenger hoist etc etc ). As I said above without knowing the full facts/background I am only speculating.

Personally its a load of togwash > but there could be a previous history to this, hence why they are asking for it??
JohnW  
#5 Posted : 10 October 2012 17:02:37(UTC)
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JohnW

My understanding of WAHR 'rescue plan' is a plan to rescue someone who has fallen or who is precariously suspended in some fall-arrest kit.

So with scaffolding you need to consider where the person will fall and where he will fall to, e.g. he falls through a gap and lands on the next down platform of the scaffold. In that case yes he will need to be rescued, and I tend to agree with OP that the procedure should be to apply first aid, make the person comfortable, he may have a back inury so await emergency team ensuring they can easily gain acces to the injured person.

A worse case, i expect, is if the person fell through a gap and found himself across a scaffold pole no where near a platform......
smith6720  
#6 Posted : 10 October 2012 17:34:16(UTC)
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smith6720

Quote > My understanding of WAHR 'rescue plan' is a plan to rescue someone who has fallen or who is precariously suspended in some fall-arrest kit. I would agree.

What about rescue from MEWP, if the said piece of plant cannot be operated from the basket, simple rescue plan would be use ground control and if required manual override

In regards to scaffolding, I would disagree, if a scaffold has been inspected and handed over, it is regarded as a safe working platform, and you are basing your thouights on someone who has had an accident, we cant plan for accidents, we can try and prevent them, hence fully handed over and inspected scaffolding. What you said regarding first aid is spot on, as we would not attempt to move someone who had been injured, we would make safe as part of a rescue. we would wait for specialist assistance.

Obviously when we have the full facts there maybe contributing factors that may have to be considered in reference to a rescue plan from a fully handed over scaffolding, as I said above the contractor asking for this, may have a specfic reason, but I have never seen one, been asked for one, or produced one. For this particular activity
MEden380  
#7 Posted : 11 October 2012 07:44:02(UTC)
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MEden380

Thankyou for your advice and opinions on my querry.
The reasoning behind the PC asking I believe is to cover themselves from any FFI.

I am finding more and more so called Principal Contractors (who are little more than project managers not contractors) are asking for documentation that they should be covering as the PC.
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