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Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#1 Posted : 19 October 2012 09:46:25(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Our company is working towards the compliance with RoHS whereby we wish to dispose of leaded solder dross and snippets of offcuts. Likewise we will have a similar situation with the leadfree solder which is a silver /copper mix.
So the question is does anyone know the EU waste codes for:
1. Leaded solder?
2. Lead free solder?
I've checked the EWC but found no clear definition.

Thanks in advance.
boblewis  
#2 Posted : 19 October 2012 10:10:37(UTC)
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boblewis

Barrie

Main reason for that is that you are NOT meant to landfill such materials but rather recycle them. Talk to your suppliers as they can return them to their processing plant.


Bob
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#3 Posted : 19 October 2012 10:17:56(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

quote=boblewis]Barrie

Main reason for that is that you are NOT meant to landfill such materials but rather recycle them. Talk to your suppliers as they can return them to their processing plant.


Bob


I appreciate that its not for landfill, but, ANY form of disposal will need an EWC code and more so to satisfy our 14001 accreditation auditors.

So the question still is does anyone know the EU waste codes for:
1. Leaded solder?
2. Lead free solder?

Badger
boblewis  
#4 Posted : 19 October 2012 10:44:09(UTC)
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boblewis

The waste codes really only apply to landfill if you look at the requirements so you need to re write procedures accordingly. If absolutely necessary then go to section 13. Metal Recycling is an exempt process but has controls to prevent waste carriage issues. Te European Court has dealt with many cases now on the definitions and there is no pressure from them to include solder directly into the waste catalogue.

Bob
boblewis  
#5 Posted : 19 October 2012 10:53:32(UTC)
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boblewis

Should also have said that as solders are generally classed as hazardous waste then movement is via a Consignment Note and there is no need for a waste code on this document thus it is irrelevant for the whole process with such materials. Manufacturers know precise details of their products and so the whole issue is far easier for them to arrange. If your ISO 14001 man does not understand this then there are some problems.

Landfill - DoC Transfer - Waste Code

Hazardous waste - Consignment note - Precise Description of waste, ie analysis of material
Kate  
#6 Posted : 19 October 2012 12:13:01(UTC)
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Kate

EWC codes do not only apply to landfilled waste in practice. For example, if you have an environmental permit, you have to make an annual report to the Environment Agency that includes a table of EWC code versus disposal/recycling fate, for all disposal/recycling and not just landfill.
AndyMak  
#7 Posted : 19 October 2012 12:33:16(UTC)
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AndyMak

For the Lead Free solder why not invest in a Solderbac machine, you take the lead free dross and melt it, swirl it and lo and behold you make new ingots out of it!

The dross of the dross is then sent away (I believe) to the Solderbac people for futher processing. If you currently use ingots in a solder wave oven it can save a considerable amount of money while doing something for the environment.

also you won't need to know the waste code as your will be recycling on site and sending waste as unprocessed material (not waste) for further treatment.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#8 Posted : 19 October 2012 12:42:40(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Andy
Nary a solder wave oven in sight just ordinary solder stations. When we make the change I wish to make a clean sweep of it so there will be no cross contamination from any dross / trimmings left on the operatives benches. I doubt that there will be that much but just in case I have to ask under the DoC requirement.

Badger
gotogmca  
#9 Posted : 19 October 2012 13:10:06(UTC)
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gotogmca

Badger,

I reckon you should use EWC code 10-08-11, picked this up from this website http://www.warton-metals...uk/dross-collection.html (In have no connection with it). They may be able to help with your other queries.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#10 Posted : 19 October 2012 13:36:58(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks gotogmca
Looks as if you hit the nail on the head and put this query to bed.

Badger
boblewis  
#11 Posted : 19 October 2012 15:45:55(UTC)
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boblewis

gotogmc

I see what they are saying but look at the section heading - soldering is not a metallurgical process it is an electronic manufacturing. RoHS of course does not apply to non lead solder in any case. Any decent ISO 14001 auditor should spot that as well.

Recycle on site is by far the best and process changes help to eliminate waste occurring. Lead based still has to go by consignment note so still has no code.

Yes some permits require such detail but only when relevant. The aim is to prove you are adhering to the permit etc not to force the discovery of a code that is irrelevant.

Bob
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