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roshqse  
#1 Posted : 22 October 2012 09:28:35(UTC)
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roshqse

Can anyone recommend a vehicle tracking system through personal experience? We have a small fleet of 7 vans which travel nationwide and occasionally northern Europe. Trying to find a cost effective system that gives me speeds at various times, journey routes and times of travel etc. The problems we have come across are unauthorised use, speeding, leaving jobs early. (and of this sound familiar?) Have been looking at various systems, at various costs and various benefits. Now my head hurts.... I always try and go for personal recommendations on this kind of thing anyway. I want to incorporate this into a training and incentive programme looking at road safety , speed awareness and quality working. It's not all stick! There will be some carrot too lol.
Rob M  
#2 Posted : 22 October 2012 09:59:12(UTC)
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Rob M

actially there is a tracking system that utilises the mobile fone, it can be used to book jobs abd do any monitoring you want. may be a better option than vehicle trackers. Il see if i can find the info
Mr.Flibble  
#3 Posted : 22 October 2012 10:19:48(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble

We use this system on all our vehicles - will give you everything what you are looking for, no idea what it is like on price though! http://www.isotrak.com/
roshqse  
#4 Posted : 22 October 2012 12:13:12(UTC)
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roshqse

Thanks guys. I think the Isotrak is more than we need though. Something simpler is the requirement.
CraigEls  
#5 Posted : 22 October 2012 12:18:40(UTC)
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CraigEls

Try traffic master, Not sure if they can do everything you require but worth a look.
johnmurray  
#6 Posted : 22 October 2012 13:54:22(UTC)
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johnmurray

http://www.tracker.co.uk...ur-vehicle/car-tracking/ Price on the page. As simple or complex as you like. Tamper-proof. In case the operative thinks that taking the fuse out is a good idea, internal back-up power. GPS and GSM location. The drivers tend to loathe them. So gotta be worth it.
Graham Bullough  
#7 Posted : 24 October 2012 00:44:31(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

As an aside forum users may recall reading about a successful prosecution during August of an asbestos analyst and a supervisor of an asbestos removal contractor who colluded to produce a false clearance certificate for asbestos removal work at a school in Oxfordshire. Online summaries about the case (as at http://www.constructione...er-school-clear-up-work/ ) mention that records from GPS tracking of the analyst’s company van showed that the analyst went to a motorway service station (to meet the supervisor and concoct the certificate) but did not go to the school. Two days later another contractor visited the school and found that the asbestos removal work had evidently not been completed. The above scenario prompts two questions as follows: Did the analyst know before the HSE investigation that his employer could track the van’s movements? If he did know, did he think (wrongly) that nobody would question the validity of the false certificate he signed and therefore nobody would check where he went? Although we’ll probably never know for certain about the analyst’s thinking, it seems prudent for employers generally to tell users of company vehicles if they’re fitted with tracking devices, and additionally what sort of information and in what detail is available from the tracking.
johnmurray  
#8 Posted : 25 October 2012 10:37:48(UTC)
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johnmurray

There is no onus on an employer/operator to notify the employee/driver that a tracking system has been deployed on any vehicle. The option exists upon installation to display "tracker fitter" stickers on the vehicle and many do so. But the system may, and is, fitted to confirm existing suspicion. I know [of] two people who were dismissed because of reports to their employer about actions taken by them [employee] by police. In both cases the tracking system was used to confirm location and time only. However it can be used to store a large number of other parameters: location, time, speed start-and-stop periods, fuelling.....systems can be used to read data from the vehicles electrical systems. In fact there is no limit to the amount of data, from the vehicle, that can be remotely accessible using modern tracker systems.
roshqse  
#9 Posted : 25 October 2012 17:12:52(UTC)
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roshqse

Lots of food for thought! Thanks everyone
Graham Bullough  
#10 Posted : 26 October 2012 00:56:34(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Though there is no obligation for employers/operators to tell employees/drivers about tracking systems fitted to vehicles, surely it's better and more positive for them to do so. Do any forum users know of instances where awareness of tracking systems by employees/drivers has had positive benefits for employers/operators and/or employees/drivers? For example, does it influence any employees/drivers to alter their driving styles and achieve better fuel consumption? Also, could awareness help to discourage unauthorised and/or non-insured use of vehicles, e.g. conveying relatives/friends and social/domestic use? In the case of the asbestos analyst mentioned earlier, it's possible that awareness of the tracking system for his company van might have spurred him to actually visit the school. As for "tracker fitted" stickers, is there any evidence that they help to deter thefts of vehicles displaying them? Also, if tracker systems enable stolen/missing vehicles to be located and relatively quickly, do insurers encourage their use and in what way/s?
johnmurray  
#11 Posted : 26 October 2012 07:45:11(UTC)
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johnmurray

Quite possibly his activities led to covert use of the device. One large s/mart has the devices installed in their fleet to encourage the drivers to stick to their PREPLANNED routes. My sons fleet van has tracker installed to halt non-work use of the vans, since their use for anything except company use would lead to insurance "problems". As for benefits, fuel use is lowered in the case of vans/cars by preventing "private" use. Fuel fiddles in trucks are harder to prevent, as I witnessed a few weeks ago when I noted one truck filling several containers on a forecourt (he was stopped by the arrival of police, probably notified by attendants watching forecourt cameras ( which are now part of the nationwide ANPR system)) All-in-all the days of theft of/from/by-use-of company vehicles is coming to a slow halt.
Phil Grace  
#12 Posted : 26 October 2012 08:16:42(UTC)
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Phil Grace

Have you thought of speaking to Fleet Insurer? They may have some useful info Phil
planeboy_uk  
#13 Posted : 02 November 2012 15:28:41(UTC)
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planeboy_uk

rileym  
#14 Posted : 05 November 2012 16:01:33(UTC)
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rileym

My company uses a system on all its commercial vehicle that not only shows where each vehicle is but also records things like speed, RPM, harsh braking, excessive idling, whether tail lifts are up or down etc. It is very useful for coordinating deliveries but I believe one of its most valuable features is that driving performance is measured and feedback is given to drivers where certain paramaters have been exceeded. Any driver doing there job properly and driving safely has nothing to fear. Hopefully one day all commercial vehicles will be fitted with similar systems.
Ally  
#15 Posted : 14 November 2012 10:32:48(UTC)
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Ally

Hi we use blackboxtelecommunications---no problems
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