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Dickens581281  
#1 Posted : 22 October 2012 11:49:25(UTC)
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Dickens581281

Good Morning All,
I have been working as a health and safety professional for around 2 1/2 years, currently as health and safety manager for a renewable energy installer in the Midlands.
Ultimately I want to operate as a CDM-C, but could use a bit of guidance as to what I should be doing in order hone my skills to suit this role.

I currently hold NEBOSH General and Construction Certs and am currently studying the NEBOSH Diploma, I also hold memberships with IOSH, APS and IIRSM.

Does anyone have any advice?

Regards
Paul Dickens
Blackwell31768  
#2 Posted : 22 October 2012 18:10:39(UTC)
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Blackwell31768

Good Evening Paul,
I currently works as a CDM Coordinator which I have done for about 3 1/2 years now but before that I worked in general H&S for Manufacturing.

I hold the same qualifications as yourself with the exception of the Diploma which I plan to start next year. I find that most companies want at least 3-5 years experience as a CDM C and like you to have worked on a diverse range of projects (not always though).

You say you are a member of APS; however, are you RMaPS? I personally found that before I became RMaPS I was not taken as seriously as I am now when looking for a new position.

There are positions out there for Junior CDM Coordinator's which is how I first got into CDM C work, it was working for a Loss Adjusting Company dealing with Refurbishment and small rebuild projects. I built up my experience from there.

I hope this helps.
Stedman  
#3 Posted : 23 October 2012 12:56:41(UTC)
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Stedman

As a lead CDM-C practitioner, I have just prepared an executive summary on potential changes to the CDM Regulations in 2014. Although the draft regulations have not yet been published, the message that we are receiving through the APS is that the HSE is now pressing for the role of 'coordinator for safety and health matters at the project preparations stage' (as defined within the Temporary or Mobile Construction Sites Directive 92/57/EEC) to be integrated within that of the Lead Designer’s role.

Hopefully we should know more in December if and when these draft regulations are published, however in the meantime if you are seeking a career as a CDM-C please be aware that there may shortly be some significant changes!
Dickens581281  
#4 Posted : 24 October 2012 12:46:27(UTC)
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Dickens581281

Thanks for this guys -

Blackwell31768, what route did you take to attain RMaPS, i'm still Associate and working through my CPD.

Stedman, I am aware that the regs will be changing towards 2014, although my thoughts were that the current role of the CDMC would start to involve a more hands on, site audit approach. Can you see the role of CDMC becoming less used and their workloads being put onto the Lead Designers?

Regards

Paul
Stedman  
#5 Posted : 24 October 2012 15:24:31(UTC)
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Stedman

Dickens581281 wrote:
Thanks for this guys -

Blackwell31768, what route did you take to attain RMaPS, i'm still Associate and working through my CPD.

Stedman, I am aware that the regs will be changing towards 2014, although my thoughts were that the current role of the CDMC would start to involve a more hands on, site audit approach. Can you see the role of CDMC becoming less used and their workloads being put onto the Lead Designers?

Regards

Paul


Paul,

With the new CDM Regulations expected to closely match written requirements of the Temporary or Mobile Construction Sites Directive 92/57/EEC and with there being a 'coordinator for safety and health matters at the project preparations stage' with the task of performing duties in Article 5 and a 'coordinator for safety and health matters at the project execution stage' in Article 6, I suspect that these will become more statutory tasks that will need to be implemented on each project rather than statutory roles. If you look at the TMCS Directive, it is the Client or Project Supervisor who are responsible for appointing the coordinator.

Whilst the APS would like to expand the duties of the CDM-C and include a “more hands on, site audit approach”, if you take text within page 2 of the current APS Digest, the HSE have a very different veiw as they now see the coordinator role at the project preparation stage sitting firmly with the Lead Designer.
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 26 October 2012 12:11:01(UTC)
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bob youel

having acted as a Planning Superviser and then CDMC I find that many of the CDMC's that I have come accross have very little real H&S experience and the same goes for many H&S people when it comes to creating managment systems for CDM jobs as MS's are what CDM askes for but few jobs have real robust systems in place

The HSE and its team when creating the origional regs missed a beat and I have a feeling that they will do the same this time as the same crew will be used

What is needed is somebody who understands design, health and safety management systems and contract/finance law so some sort of qualification that includes academic + reality experience is needed in all those areas to get the all round competence/people

My advice is the get all areas under your belt and last but not least common sense is also needed

best of luck
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