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DarrenL  
#1 Posted : 22 October 2012 14:01:28(UTC)
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DarrenL

We have recently had concerns regarding the accessing and standing on van roof racks during the off loading of materials.

Question - Would it be reasonably acceptable for the short duration to allow our operatives to off load from the roof rack after gaining access via the ladder positioned on the rear doors?

I have considered the working at height rules and consider the duration of the activity to out way the need for additional controls such as barriers / harnesses etc.

What are the thoughts on this issue of off loading from a roof rack?
MEden380  
#2 Posted : 22 October 2012 14:38:52(UTC)
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MEden380

Darren
Had this issue at previous job. We changed our fleet of over 100 vehicles and were shocked at how much we had to pay for damaged to vehicle roof, over £300 per roof.
We put a blanket ban on anyone accessing the roof of their new vehicle, supplying them with hop ups to enable them to secure ladders, no materials to be placed on roof of vehicle and fitting drop down ladder racks for hi-top vehicles. Had to put up with a lot of moaning and groaning, but in reality why does anyone need to stand on the roof of their van? It is an accident waiting to happen
roshqse  
#3 Posted : 22 October 2012 16:28:23(UTC)
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roshqse

There are lots systems available to avoid having to access a vehicle roof. Ladder racks, drop down storage, fold out steps etc.
I see where you're coming from regarding time on roof etc. but if someone was to fall off, which they will , then where would you stand?

Also , how do you come up with a Safe working method for vehicle loading?
A Brown  
#4 Posted : 17 September 2015 16:13:19(UTC)
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A Brown

Re-visiting an old thread, and apologies if this is seen as 'advertising' (however, the product is not yet commercially available) but if you visit veps.co.uk you'll find extensive guidance on this subject and the foreseeability of the risk of serious injury, including links to the pertinent case law.

Al
A Brown  
#5 Posted : 13 November 2016 21:22:18(UTC)
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A Brown

Could I ask that if any members come across this issue, or have any pertinent photos they have they could share, I'd really appreciate it if you could let me know.

Many thanks

Al

A Brown  
#6 Posted : 28 September 2018 18:51:20(UTC)
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A Brown

An interesting recent case:

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/pictures-preston-eaterie-fined-15-000-over-health-and-safety-flouts-1-9238758

Perhaps as interesting as the prosecution itself however, is the fine - compare the £15k fine for a non injury 'proactive' prosecution with the £10k fine Anglian Windows were handed down a couple of years ago for an accident where their employee suffered life changin injuries falling from a van.

I imagine the likely fine after a similar accident these days (especially as it is likely most offenders do this activity regularly, unlike in  the recent Preston case) would be very significant

Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 28 September 2018 20:15:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

What is your commisson or link with this company that you resurect old posts (primarily your own)?

Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 28 September 2018 20:15:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

What is your commisson or link with this company that you resurect old posts (primarily your own)?

A Brown  
#9 Posted : 28 September 2018 20:29:04(UTC)
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A Brown

My 'link' to this business is that I own it. However, the product is not on the market as I am still in the development stages. I do not earn anything from it, either in salary or commision.

That said, I merely posted this update in response to a Work at height issue another IOSH member originaly posted, to highlight the ongoing risk, and to highlight others to an area that is often overlooked by many as it is peripratetic work.

Al

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