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Hi all
can a principal contractor produce his own preconstruction information? prior to the preparation of his own CPP?
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Hi Z
A principle contractor would not be expected to devlop his own pre-construction information, this would be produced by the client and the CDMC, but if he felt that the information given was insufficient, then the PC could develop the information further, to enable him to produce the CHSP.
Never heard of PC producing their own pre-construction information, I think the HSE would be looking at the client/CDMC regarding their duties under CDM regs.
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It is entirely feasible that one Organisation could simultaneously undertake the role of Client, Designer, CDM-C and PC. On that basis, the answer = Yes.
Where you are appointed by another, I suggest the answer =No.
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Short answer - as so often for queries on this forum...is "it depends"....
If the client to a project knows something (or should know something) then he should tell the contractor (pass the PCI).
But sometimes the client will not have access to information which the contractor may need - and may be ill equipped to find the information, may not even realise there is an absence of certain data.
In such circumstances, it would be entirely appropriate for the contractor to go looking for the information - to obtain further 'PCI' before he develops his construction phase plan. So - an electric company might be expected to provide detailed records of buried services in a substation compound - but the average retail concern wanting work done may not have the information or know where to get it (or even know it was needed. A competent contractor should understand that - and be able to get the essential info before developing his plan / starting to dig ....
Steve
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In my book, Principal Contractor means Notifiable Project means the issues Steve describes are the remit of the CDM-C.
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Ron you're spot on.
I hang my head in shame. Reg 20 (2) a.
Don't know what I was thinking....
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The other way to look at it is "Whats the point?" The CPP is the management plan for the project and incorporates the information the PC has or acquires thus why create a first document to create the second. The CDMC and Client have failed in their duty but that does not mean the PC carries a responsibility to do their job, he simply needs his management plan.
Of course the PC may also be CDMC and/or Client then the picture changes.
From a CDMC perspective I was often faced with PCs who never read the PCI and in some instances they faced some costly extras that were unpriced. If he do not receive any PCI then the PC must be asking questions. But mine were always part of the tender package and thus all information was assumed priced. What does one do with a PC though who does not read all the information and fails to price for 2 asbestos workers acting as lookouts on contaminated land for 12 weeks and and associated skip charges? Why should the client pay an additional £20k because the PC does not read the information provided.
PCIs are a minefield at times:-)
Bob
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