Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Doug Berry  
#1 Posted : 10 November 2012 09:25:55(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Doug Berry

Hi all Thought I would share a recent interview experience with you, and this one just goes to show that you can never second guess what to expect at an interview. Have been unemployed for just over a year now, and been reasonably fortunate in obtaining interviews, though on many of those occasions been told that it was very difficult to choose the successful candidate and that I had come second (getting to be the story of my life). However, on this particular interview for a Health & Safety Officer, I was asked to provide a presentation on best value, not a problem and linked it to Health & Safety and it went well. I then faced two hours of questioning on a whole variety of issues, but not a single question on Health & Safety or even remotely connected to H & S. Having done a lot of research to obtain a good understanding and knowledge of the company, along with the competencies they required, I confess to still be a little surprised, though in my opinion, well prepared as knew an awful lot about the company, what they did and how they did it. End result was....I came second, the person they did select apparently fitted in better with the culture of the company. Oh well as they say, onwards and upwards Best wishes and good luck to all people in a similar position to me, glass half full and all that
Canopener  
#2 Posted : 11 November 2012 10:48:36(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Canopener

Doug, thank you, that's an interesting insight. I think the thing that I often feel that posters on the discussion forum overlook is that the H&S role is to most companies more than being about quoting chapter and verse from the regs etc. The reality is that they don't need a H&S officer to do that, just someone who can read and recite. Increasingly, I suggest the role is far more rounded than that and that H&S officers need to have a good understanding of business, business needs,business impact, best value, and how the H&S role fits into that in a proportionate, practical and pragmatic way, to suit the business. All that said however, it is strange that H&S didn't feature in the interview. Perhaps their line of questioning was trying to determine whether the candidates fully understood the business aspects of the role rather than merely focusing on H&S. Who knows. Keep plodding on
stuie  
#3 Posted : 11 November 2012 16:11:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
stuie

Hi Doug - keep it up you will find something. Yes interviews can be very different in format etc - I have been for about 20 in the last couple of months, ranging from full on STAR interviews which are competency based and force you to think on your feet, to a simple half hour face to face (which to be fair really threw me as they were appointing on application form and this 30 mins alone). As you say - for any interview - research, learn and be able to recall the relevant info about the company/role etc, be smart and professional, and treat the receptionist with all due courtesy as they may well be involved on the periphery selection process. Wear a tie (males out there) as it is better to be wearing a tie and find the other not wearing one, than to turn up with an open collar to find everyone else in a tie! I was 'second' best on a number of occasions too - don't be too disheartened you will get to the stage where you are first choice, look on it as experience and learning's - you may be able to put a few marks on your CPD for the research skills etc that you have learnt/maintained etc. Best wishes for the future Stuart
chris42  
#4 Posted : 12 November 2012 09:22:37(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
chris42

Doug, I note you are also in South Wales, You probably saw the same H&S & compliance manager job advertised on Direct.gov as myself, a little while back (Swansea ish). When I pulled the job spec which was several pages long, I think it only mentioned H&S on one line!. To be honest I could not work out the main focus of the job, not sure they knew either, so didn’t apply. Whatever the job was, it was not H&S. I admit it did amuse me for the half hour or so of my time it wasted. Keep trying and good luck. Chris
jontyjohnston  
#5 Posted : 12 November 2012 15:01:56(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
jontyjohnston

Doug Nought stranger than people, including those that make up companies. About 10 years ago I was successfully appointed as Group H&S Manager for a company. About 4 months later I was interviewing for Group H&S Officer when I had the funniest interview ever! This guy comes in, answers about half the questions asked, attitude and body language screaming that he could care less about the interview, then at the end when we asked if he had any questions for us he addressed me with "So, what makes you think you are qualified for the Group role then?" After he left the nice HR lassie apologies and said he had been one of the unsuccessful candidates for the role I got. Message is that with [insert your word of choice here] out there looking for work something will definitely come your way! Keep plugging away and good luck.
KieranD  
#6 Posted : 13 November 2012 11:03:01(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
KieranD

Doug To the above constructive and helpful observations, may I add a couple more 1. This is one side of the triangle: the role is far more rounded than that and that H&S officers need to have a good understanding of business, business needs,business impact, best value, and how the H&S role fits into that in a proportionate, practical and pragmatic way, to suit the business. 2. A second side might be summarised as 'personality', as jontyjohnston's story illustrates. Although 'personality' can seem daunting, in reality interviewers and interviewees are both managing their impressions of each other the whole time. One of the most technically reliable model of personalities at work is known as the 'Big Six' qualities of extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, openmindedness, stability and honesty/humility. Whether these qualities are formally assessed or not, you may find them useful to consider in the stories, etc you use to portray yourself 3. A third side of the triangle is 'organisational culture', as chris42 illustrates. One of the most reliable model of this complex phenomenon is summed up in five dimensions: power distance, uncertainty avoidance (often either very high or very low in relation to safety), masculinity-feminity, individual-collective, and long term-short term. This framework can be used to co-ordinate a lot of information about any organisation, as its inventor, Hofstede showed in 'Software of the mind'
Doug Berry  
#7 Posted : 14 November 2012 16:58:53(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Doug Berry

Thank you all for taking the time to read my post and respond. Can't be down heartened, I view it as an invaluable learning experience and I shall carry out in my search, but with a wider knowledge and expectation brought about by my interview experience and by your very useful and informative comments, thank you all
markburrows  
#8 Posted : 16 November 2012 17:27:08(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
markburrows

Doug, Keep focussed and positive, I several years and many frustrating interviews before i landed a H&S Managers role, after two years in that position, I appkied for a role that i thought was a little out of my reach, it wasnt i got the job and its my current role as a H&S Manager in Bahrain, i love the job and the company is brilliant. Take the "sorry you came second" as a positive, keep doing the research and whatever happens something will come up. All the best Mark
Users browsing this topic
Guest
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.